Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 18:59:50 05/08/04
Go up one level in this thread
On May 08, 2004 at 20:52:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 08, 2004 at 14:26:39, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 08, 2004 at 13:38:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 08, 2004 at 13:25:03, Will Singleton wrote: >>> >>>>On May 08, 2004 at 13:14:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 08, 2004 at 11:54:58, Rob Basham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>[D]2r2rk1/p1q1bpp1/1p6/n2R4/8/P4N2/1B2QPPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1 >>>>>> >>>>>>White plays....Bxg7...! >>>>>> >>>>>>Any programs find this neat move? >>>>>> >>>>>>this is taken from the 24 brilliant moves file.... >>>>>> >>>>>>thanks >>>>>>Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My beloved Aristarch 4.41 can't find the winning move >>>>> within reasonable time. >>>>> Kurt >>>>> >>>>>Aristarch 4.41 UCI1: (P4 1.8/32 MB hash) >>>>> 2- 00:00 -0.42 Bxg7 Kxg7 >>>>> 2 00:00 -1.03 Bxg7 Kxg7 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 -1.02 h4 Bxa3 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 -0.82 h4 Bxa3 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.24 h4 Rfd8 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.25 h3 Rfd8 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.32 h3 Rfd8 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.33 Qd3 Rfd8 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.34 Qd3 Rfd8 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.35 Re1 Qc4 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.55 Re1 Qc4 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.64 Re1 Rfd8 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.65 Rfd1 Rfd8 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.69 Rfd1 Rfd8 >>>>> 2+ 00:00 0.70 Rc1 Rfd8 >>>>> 2 00:00 0.75 Rc1 Nc4 >>>>> 3 00:00 0.82 Rc1 Nc4 a4 >>>>> 3+ 00:00 0.83 Rfd1 Rfd8 Ng5 >>>>> 3 00:00 0.92 Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7 >>>>> 3+ 00:00 0.93 Re1 Rfd8 Rxd8+ Rxd8 Qxe7 >>>>> 3 00:00 1.03 Re1 Rfe8 Qe4 >>>>> 4- 00:00 0.61 Re1 Rfe8 Qe4 Bxa3 >>>>> 4 00:00 0.52 Re1 Rfe8 Qe3 Nc4 >>>>> 4+ 00:00 0.53 Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7 Nxa3 >>>>> 4+ 00:00 0.73 Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7 Nxa3 >>>>> 4 00:00 0.79 Rfd1 Rfd8 Qe4 Nc4 >>>>> 4+ 00:00 0.80 Rc1 Nc4 Nd2 Nxb2 >>>>> 4 00:00 0.80 Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Rfe8 >>>>> 5 00:00 0.81 Rc1 Nc4 Ne5 Qb7 Rd7 >>>>> 6 00:00 0.67 Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Nb3 Re1 Rfd8 >>>>> 6+ 00:00 0.68 Qe4 Nc4 Rc1 Rfd8 Rxd8+ Bxd8 Qe8+ Kh7 Qf8 Bf6 >>>>> 6 00:00 0.87 Qe4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qg5 Qxb2 >>>>> 7 00:00 0.78 Qe4 Qc4 Qf5 Qb3 Rb1 Rcd8 Rb5 >>>>> 7+ 00:00 0.79 Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Nb3 Re1 Rfd8 Qf5 >>>>> 7 00:01 0.88 Rc1 Qb7 Rcd1 Rfe8 Rd7 Bd6 Ne5 Rxe5 >>>>> 8 00:01 0.78 Rc1 Qxc1+ Bxc1 Rxc1+ Ne1 Bxa3 Qe4 Rc4 Qe3 Bc5 >>>>> 9 00:03 0.77 Rc1 Qxc1+ Bxc1 Rxc1+ Ne1 Bxa3 Qe4 Nc4 Rh5 Rd8 Qh7+ Kf8 Qe4 >>>>> 9+ 00:04 0.78 Qe4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qd6 Qxb2 Rd2 Rfd8 Qxd8+ Nxd8 >>>>> 9 00:05 0.93 Qe4 Qc4 Rd4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qe4 Qxb2 Rd6 >>>>> 9+ 00:08 0.94 Nd2 Rfd8 Qg4 g6 Rxd8+ Qxd8 Ne4 Rc2 Rd1 Rxb2 Rxd8+ Bxd8 >>>>> 9 00:09 0.99 Nd2 Bd6 Qg4 Bxh2+ Kh1 f5 Rxf5 Rxf5 Qxf5 Nc4 Nxc4 Qxc4 >>>>>10 00:15 1.34 Nd2 Bd6 Ne4 Bxh2+ Kh1 Qc2 Rd2 Qc7 Bxg7 Nc4 Qg4 Nxd2 >>>>>11 00:33 1.28 Nd2 Rfd8 Qg4 g6 Qh3 f6 Qe6+ Kf8 Bxf6 Rxd5 >>>>>11+ 00:40 1.29 Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Qb7 Qg4+ Kh8 Qh5+ >>>>>11+ 00:42 1.49 Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Qb7 Qg4+ Kh8 Qh5+ >>>>>11 00:47 1.66 Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Rfd8 >>>>>12 01:00 1.27 Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Rfd8 >>>>>12+ 01:13 1.28 Nd2 Nc6 Qg4 Bf6 Bxf6 Rfe8 >>>>>12 01:30 1.31 Nd2 Nc4 Nxc4 >>>>>13 02:59 1.45 Nd2 Rcd8 >>>>>14 09:03 1.18 Nd2 Rcd8 >>>> >>>> >>>>Likely because Bxg7 isn't winning? I don't see it. >>>> >>>>1. Bxg7 Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8 4. Qf5 f6 5. Nd7+ Rxd7 6. Rxd7 Qe5 7. Qh3 >>>>Rc7 * >>> >>> >>>I let Crafty burn a while and it doesn't like Bg7 particularly either. It >>>thinks the score after Bg7 is about the same as the score for other moves by >>>white. I noticed in the PV after Bxg7 that it saw this as two pieces for a rook >>>and pawn, which it will not like much, ever, unless it finds something >>>tactically farther down the line: >>> >>> 11-> 23.98 0.65 1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8 >>> 4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc3 6. Rxa7 Bxa3 >>> 7. Qd7 Qc4 >>> 12 1:15 0.62 1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8 >>> 4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc4 6. Qh3 Qh4 >>> 7. Qf5 Qf6 8. Qd3 >>> 12-> 1:19 0.62 1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8 >>> 4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc4 6. Qh3 Qh4 >>> 7. Qf5 Qf6 8. Qd3 >>> 13 4:17 0.92 1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qh5 Bf6 >>> 4. Nd7 Rxd7 5. Qg4+ Kf8 6. Rxd7 Qc4 >>> 7. Qf3 Qc6 8. Qf5 >>> 13-> 4:37 0.92 1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qh5 Bf6 >>> 4. Nd7 Rxd7 5. Qg4+ Kf8 6. Rxd7 Qc4 >>> 7. Qf3 Qc6 8. Qf5 >> >>Deep blue JR already proved that ksparov blundered when he played Bxg7 and the >>right move is Rh5 > >I don't buy that. It might have proved that Kasparov lost after Bxg7, but it >hardly proves that Rh5 is right and Bxg7 is wrong. White can lose just as >easily as black can win... Rh5 wins, no doubt. Bxg7 is unclear at best. Portisch did not play the best defense at all. I am surprised you don't remember because you were an active part of that thread. Miguel > > >> >>see http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?find_thread=170951
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.