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Subject: Re: Why CTF is Far Superior to this Forum.......

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 04:23:33 05/10/04

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On May 09, 2004 at 14:45:19, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On May 09, 2004 at 09:07:33, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2004 at 23:09:55, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2004 at 21:42:11, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 07, 2004 at 12:22:05, steven blincoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Dear pal:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Insults and wars in CTF, that worry so much some pals here, are just the
>>>>>>enveloppe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>tell me my freind
>>>>>what does a poster have to write or say in the CTF for it to be deleted?
>>>>>
>>>>>here the rules of what is or is not acceptable are pretty well delineated
>>>>>
>>>>>can you give me an example of a posting that would be considered unacceptable??
>>>>>i of course do not need a word by word graphic example..just a basic idea would
>>>>>be fine
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can tell you that the rules here are nothing of the sort.  They are subject to
>>>>the whim of the moderators.  I had a post deleted here because I said I
>>>>suspected a poster of being under the influence of alcohol because of his
>>>>constant insulting post and constant unfounded statements.  My "personal attack"
>>>>of the poster was only in the minds of the moderator that deleted my post.  And
>>>>besides, what's wrong with dragging a few of the insulting people away from this
>>>>forum to somewhere they will be more at home?
>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Jim,
>>>
>>>I would be very careful what you post here.  First - you cannot suspect of
>>>anyone usung alcohol when you all see is plain text message posted here on this
>>>forum.  Last time I checked, the internet does not convey redshot eyes, slur
>>>speech, unsteady balance, blood tests etc.  To say "suspect" is not a logical
>>>conclusion from the evidence that is available to you.
>>>
>>>The poster that you made referenced to, wrote to the moderators through the
>>>proper complaint channel (e-mail) and complained about your post.  The poster
>>>you suspected of using alcohol does not drink alcolhol at all.  So your
>>>"personal unfounded attack" was not simply a "only in the minds(sic) of the
>>>moderator" .
>>>
>>>If you do have a complaint about a post, please use the proper channels.  We
>>>simply do not have time nor the desire to read every post.
>>>
>>>FYI,  I was not the moderator that deleted your post - but all three of the
>>>moderators were on the same page - your post was deleted for all the correct
>>>reasons.
>>>
>>>We can take this to private e-mail if you wish to discuss further,
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>It is obviously useless to discuss this further.  You have a mindset that a
>>suspicion is a personal attack.  I can't change that.  I have seen actual
>>personal attacks on this forum which have gone without being deleted.  If all it
>>takes to get a post deleted is to complain about it then so be it.
>>I have no reason to "be very careful" what I post here.  Since anything the
>>moderators don't like will be deleted anyway.  If you want to ban me from here I
>>don't care.  I was kicked off ICC for providing the customers with a needed
>>service but the operators there were not smart enough to see it.  I'm still
>>surviving without ICC and I can survive without this forum.  Do what you have to
>>do.
>>Jim
>
>"It is obviously useless to discuss this further'
>
>I agree, but for different reasons.
>
>Michael

I can "suspect" anything I want.  I can even draw conclusions if I like.  You
and nobody here can stop that.  The moderators can only delete my post when they
"suspect" I have personally attacked someone.  I live in a free society where I
can suspect anything I like.  I also have the freedom to say what I suspect.
People here have the freedom to tell me that they suspect anything I suspect is
wrong.  That's what freedom of speech is about.  You can even suspect that I'm
drinking if you want.  But deleting a post about this is over moderating.  It is
supression of free speech.
Please tell me how posting a suspicion about someones mental condition (alcohol
induced) is a personal attack when calling someone a fraud is not a personal
attack.
Jim



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