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Subject: Re: Komputer Korner calls Chessmaster 6000 a TOP program

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 20:27:31 12/16/98

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On December 16, 1998 at 22:49:27, Prakash Das wrote:

>On December 16, 1998 at 20:21:45, Marc Plum wrote:
>
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>>
>
>>But here's a thought.  If you are into serious chess analysis, spend more time
>>using the engine between your ears.  Yes, if you use a program, you will come up
>>with lots of stuff you would never have thought of on your own.  But you aren't
>>teaching *yourself* to think.  Serious analysis isn't just about coming up with
>>answers to your questions, it's about training your mind to find ways to come up
>>with answers.
>>
>>Of course I am aware that programs have become a valuable analytical tool for
>>professionals; I half remember several stories of Grandmasters using them to
>>come up with useful innovations.  Grandmasters, however, already have a firm
>>grasp of the basics, and can afford to use programs or human assistants to work
>>out some of the details.
>>
>
> I think you miss the point. KK reviews chess programs for professional players
>too. His reviews are usually comprehensive and detailed which is what a
>professional needs to know before he/she purchases one to use for his profession
>(chess playing).
>
> CM6k lacks the analysis capability that he talks about, and it is a rather
>serious drawback. Professional players even though they know chess (much more
>than us), like to use programs to analyze moves etc. So this drawback is
>especially glaring.
>
> It's nice to tell us the obvious fact we need to think for ourselves, but KK
>reviews also for professionals, and for them it is a toy. The engine is strong
>yes, no one denies that.

Fine I am not denying those points.
What pisses me off about these posts is the reference to it as a toy. that is
offensive and degrading in my view. It is not a toy, it has a chess engine which
can match the best of them. I like reading KK reviews but for the first time I
am disappointed in his opinion, mainly the heading and the reference to it as a
toy.

And I have read posts on here from USCF masters and some other professional
chess players tha state they find CM6K a useful tool. So stop making general
comments and do not talk for people whose opinions you cannot represent. If you
find it a toy fine. But I  would assume many professionals would fine it a good
program.

Sounds to me that this is just another case of CM6K bashing.



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