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Subject: Re: Crafty 19.12 at 40/2hrs {Quite long --> The games}

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:20:10 05/11/04

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On May 11, 2004 at 18:12:48, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 11, 2004 at 03:01:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>[snip]
>>I do not understand this evaluation because it seems to contradict the pv.
>>
>>List plans to allow Crafty repetition of the root position if you change
>>Crafty's Nf6e4 that is written in the pv  to Qc7b7 but still evaluates the
>>position as positive for itself.
>>
>>I think that the evaluation should be at most 0.00 if the opponent can force
>>repetition of the root position against your plan.
>
>Beyond the first few plies, a pv is a wild guess.  Beyond the stated search
>depth, a pv is wild speculation (often based on SEE).  It is not unusual to see
>a pv by a top chess program have a checkmate sign in it, and have the score
>nowhere close to a checkmate.

It can never happen with movei unless I have a bug.
checkmate is always evaluated as checkmate in movei.

In the relevant case of List-Crafty the repetition can happen in the 4th ply of
the pv and it is not a horizon effect.

It is possible that list read the pv from the hash and it is wrong but it is
clear that 4 plies should be enough to see a draw for crafty in that line so the
fact that list has positive score in the game is clearly wrong.

Uri



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