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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 disadvantaged in future SSDF lists?(not only shredder)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:20:12 05/12/04

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On May 12, 2004 at 07:50:09, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On May 12, 2004 at 07:42:31, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2004 at 07:18:50, Mike Hood wrote:
>>
>>>The way to get maximum playing strength out of Shredder 8 is to use the UCI
>>>engine in Shredder's Classic GUI with Sandro Necchi's new opening book, the book
>>>mode set to "Tournament" in the GUI.
>>>
>>>But the SSDF will never test Shredder 8 in this configuration, because it's a
>>>combination of two separately marketed products. The Shredder 8 UCI engine is
>>>sold by Chessbase, and the GUI is sold at www.shredderchess.de.
>
>Hi Uri,
>
>>
>>It is also possible that the best way to get maximum strength of chessmaster is
>>to use Fritz8.ctg under chessbase
>
>It is not the same. I am the book maker for Shredder both for CB and UCI gui.
>
>>
>>If you allow combination of 2 products then you need to allow it for every
>>engine.
>>
>>I am not against it.
>
>
>Again cannot put this on the same level.
>
>>I think that every engine should be tested in the way that the programmer likes
>>and it includes the opening book that he likes and the interface that he choose.
>
>So we did. We asked to test the UCI version with Shredder 8 book, but since it
>is sold in two different packages it was not done.
>
>I told the SSDF that the real update to the 7.04 UCI was the 8.0 UCI and that I
>was not sure Shredder 8 CB would have topped the SSDF list. Looking the result I
>was not that far away from reality...
>
>>
>>Of course credit for the right people should be given in notes to the list and
>>the list can have different color for the programs that were tested as
>>combination of more than one program.
>
>It is the same program, only the book has an option for a more restricted
>selection...how can you call this a combination of two different programs?

It is clearly a combination of 2 different products.
The fact that the programs of the opening book in these products are almost the
same does not mean that they are not different.

Uri




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