Author: Rex
Date: 18:46:47 05/12/04
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On May 12, 2004 at 18:03:06, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>On May 12, 2004 at 17:23:40, Robert Pawlak wrote:
>
>>See my site for more info:
>>
>>www.chessassistance.com
>>
>>Bob
>
>
>As long as there are positions like this one which requires 10 men TBs, Human
>will always be better :-)
>
>Most programs don't even have a clue of what the correct plan is, and for the
>first 30 moves it analyze this position as even, but any IM or Above will
>realize that White is winning from the starting position.
>
>[Event "Shootout (Shredder8, 120'/40+60'/20+30')"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "New game"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>
>[D]8/8/3k4/3p4/3PpN2/4P1B1/3qBK2/8 w - - 0 1
>
>
>1. Ng6+ {[%eval 59,22] [%emt 0:04:19]} Kd7 {[%eval 58,24] [%emt 0:03:45]} 2.
>Bh4 {(Bb8) [%eval 64,23] [%emt 0:03:14]} Ke6 {[%eval 59,24] [%emt 0:02:47]} 3.
>Bg3 {(Nf4+) [%eval 66,23] [%emt 0:05:16]} Qc3 {
>(Qa2) [%eval 111,23] [%emt 0:17:07]} 4. Bg4+ {
>(Nf4+) [%eval 66,20] [%emt 0:02:23]} Kf6 {[%eval 65,22] [%emt 0:00:50]} 5. Nf4
>{[%eval 78,22] [%emt 0:02:11]} Kg5 {[%eval 70,23] [%emt 0:05:02]} 6. Bd1 {
>(Be2) [%eval 80,22] [%emt 0:02:29]} Qc4 {(Qa3) [%eval 168,23] [%emt 0:05:32]}
>7. Be2 {[%eval 166,23] [%emt 0:03:25]} Qb3 {(Qc6) [%eval 192,24] [%emt 0:04:05]
>} 8. Bh2 {[%eval 186,24] [%emt 0:04:36]} Kf6 {[%eval 189,23] [%emt 0:02:48]} 9.
>Bg1 {[%eval 205,23] [%emt 0:02:15]} Ke7 {(Kg5) [%eval 207,24] [%emt 0:02:05]}
>10. Bg4 {[%eval 194,24] [%emt 0:02:23]} Qc2+ {
>(Kd6) [%eval 199,23] [%emt 0:02:42]} 11. Kg3 {
>(Kf1) [%eval 207,24] [%emt 0:02:05]} Qc4 {(Kd6) [%eval 206,22] [%emt 0:02:00]}
>12. Be6 {(Kg2) [%eval 208,23] [%emt 0:03:11]} Qc1 {
>[%eval 212,24] [%emt 0:02:11]} 13. Kg2 {[%eval 213,24] [%emt 0:02:49]} Qd1 {
>(Qd2+) [%eval 218,24] [%emt 0:03:20]} 14. Bxd5 {[%eval 215,24] [%emt 0:03:07]}
>Qg4+ {[%eval 204,24] [%emt 0:04:19]} 15. Kf1 {
>(Kf2) [%eval 204,25] [%emt 0:01:12]} Qf3+ {(Qd1+) [%eval 204,22] [%emt 0:01:06]
>} 16. Ke1 {[%eval 202,25] [%emt 0:02:21]} Qh1 {[%eval 202,25] [%emt 0:01:46]}
>17. Ne2 {[%eval 201,25] [%emt 0:02:56]} Kd6 {[%eval 200,26] [%emt 0:02:36]} 18.
>Bf7 {(Bb3) [%eval 208,24] [%emt 0:06:40]} Ke7 {[%eval 207,22] [%emt 0:01:47]}
>19. Ba2 {(Bc4) [%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:04:09]} Kd6 {
>(Qh5) [%eval 213,23] [%emt 0:02:27]} 20. Kd1 {
>(Bb1) [%eval 216,24] [%emt 0:02:37]} Qg2 {(Kd7) [%eval 212,24] [%emt 0:01:50]}
>21. Ke1 {(Bb3) [%eval 211,24] [%emt 0:02:59]} Qh1 {
>[%eval 215,23] [%emt 0:02:20]} 22. Bf7 {(Bb1) [%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:03:25]}
>Kc7 {(Kc6) [%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:02:08]} 23. Bb3 {
>[%eval 211,25] [%emt 0:02:54]} Kd6 {[%eval 210,25] [%emt 0:02:23]} 24. Bc4 {
>(Ba4) [%eval 212,22] [%emt 0:06:48]} Kc6 {(Qh5) [%eval 210,23] [%emt 0:02:18]}
>25. Be6 {(Kd2) [%eval 211,22] [%emt 0:03:47]} Kd6 {
>[%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:02:19]} 26. Bc4 {(Bb3) [%eval 210,23] [%emt 0:02:52]}
>Ke7 {[%eval 211,23] [%emt 0:02:44]} 27. Kd2 {[%eval 210,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qg2
>{[%eval 206,23] [%emt 0:03:03]} 28. Ke1 {(Bb3) [%eval 206,23] [%emt 0:04:54]}
>Qh1 {(Qg5) [%eval 207,24] [%emt 0:03:05]} 29. Kd2 {
>(Kd1) [%eval 207,23] [%emt 0:02:11]} Qg2 {[%eval 205,22] [%emt 0:02:12]} 30.
>Kc2 {(Bb5) [%eval 201,22] [%emt 0:02:59]} Kd6 {[%eval 206,23] [%emt 0:01:57]}
>31. Bb5 {[%eval 205,23] [%emt 0:01:22]} Kd5 {
>(Ke7) [%eval 206,23] [%emt 0:02:23]} 32. Kd1 {
>(Kd2) [%eval 208,22] [%emt 0:01:41]} Qf1+ {[%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:02:37]} 33.
>Kd2 {[%eval 209,24] [%emt 0:03:59]} Qg2 {[%eval 213,24] [%emt 0:03:54]} 34. Ke1
>{[%eval 213,24] [%emt 0:03:32]} Kd6 {(Qh1) [%eval 209,24] [%emt 0:02:10]} 35.
>Bc4 {[%eval 209,23] [%emt 0:02:11]} Qh1 {[%eval 205,22] [%emt 0:01:54]} 36. Bb3
>{(Kd1) [%eval 207,23] [%emt 0:01:30]} Ke7 {[%eval 208,23] [%emt 0:01:20]} 37.
>Bd1 {[%eval 208,23] [%emt 0:01:38]} Kd6 {(Qh5) [%eval 205,23] [%emt 0:03:27]}
>38. Ba4 {[%eval 204,23] [%emt 0:01:39]} Ke7 {
>(Ke6) [%eval 206,23] [%emt 0:01:39]} 39. Kd1 {
>(Kd2) [%eval 207,24] [%emt 0:02:03]} Qg2 {[%eval 206,26] [%emt 0:01:29]} 40.
>Ke1 {(Bb3) [%eval 209,25] [%emt 0:02:43]} Qh1 {
>(Qg5) [%eval 202,24] [%emt 0:01:04]} 41. Bb3 {
>(Bc2) [%eval 206,24] [%emt 0:03:19]} Kd7 {(Kd6) [%eval 202,26] [%emt 0:02:55]}
>42. Bc2 {[%eval 202,25] [%emt 0:03:19]} Kc6 {[%eval 200,24] [%emt 0:00:42]} 43.
>Kd2 {(Ba4+) [%eval 200,24] [%emt 0:02:01]} Qg2 {[%eval 197,26] [%emt 0:01:16]}
>44. Ba4+ {[%eval 202,24] [%emt 0:03:34]} Kd6 {[%eval 203,25] [%emt 0:01:35]}
>45. Ke1 {(Bd1) [%eval 202,26] [%emt 0:03:54]} Qh1 {
>[%eval 202,24] [%emt 0:02:29]} 46. Kd2 {(Bd1) [%eval 208,23] [%emt 0:02:45]}
>Qg2 {[%eval 202,24] [%emt 0:00:36]} 47. Ke1 {
>(Bb3) [%eval 207,25] [%emt 0:02:35]} Qh1 {[%eval 203,25] [%emt 0:03:33]} 48.
>Bb3 {(Kd1) [%eval 203,24] [%emt 0:01:54]} Kc6 {[%eval 204,26] [%emt 0:04:25]}
>49. Kd1 {(Bc2) [%eval 209,22] [%emt 0:02:53]} Qf3 {
>(Kc7) [%eval 203,22] [%emt 0:00:52]} 50. Ke1 {
>(Ba4+) [%eval 207,22] [%emt 0:05:07]} Qh1 {[%eval 198,23] [%emt 0:02:52]} 51.
>Kd1 {(Kd2) [%eval 200,21] [%emt 0:01:47]} Kd6 {[%eval 198,27] [%emt 0:07:12]}
>52. Ba2 {(Kd2) [%eval 189,24] [%emt 0:03:04]} Kd7 {
>(Qg2) [%eval 190,24] [%emt 0:06:22]} 53. Bc4 {
>(Kd2) [%eval 182,24] [%emt 0:05:05]} Kd6 {[%eval 174,22] [%emt 0:03:46]} 54.
>Kd2 {[%eval 182,22] [%emt 0:02:39]} Qg2 {(Ke7) [%eval 160,22] [%emt 0:03:14]}
>55. Bb5 {(Bb3) [%eval 163,22] [%emt 0:04:30]} Ke7 {
>[%eval 154,20] [%emt 0:02:30]} 56. Ke1 {(Bc6) [%eval 149,20] [%emt 0:02:15]}
>Qh1 {(Qh3) [%eval 131,21] [%emt 0:04:49]} 57. Kd2 {
>(Kd1) [%eval 173,19] [%emt 0:01:15]} Qh5 {(Kd6) [%eval 107,22] [%emt 0:02:31]}
>58. Nc3 {(Ba4) [%eval 150,21] [%emt 0:01:27]} Qf3 {
>[%eval 128,21] [%emt 0:01:59]} 59. Ne2 {(Bc6) [%eval 129,19] [%emt 0:01:28]}
>Qh5 {(Qg2) [%eval 134,21] [%emt 0:06:01]} 60. Nc3 {
>(Ba4) [%eval 136,21] [%emt 0:02:28]} Qf3 {(Qg5) [%eval 154,18] [%emt 0:02:05]}
>61. d5 {[%eval 162,19] [%emt 0:00:47]} Qh1 {(Qg3) [%eval 141,19] [%emt 0:00:54]
>} 62. Bf2 {(Ne2) [%eval 161,20] [%emt 0:00:44]} Qg2 {
>[%eval 173,20] [%emt 0:00:42]} 63. Nd1 {[%eval 178,20] [%emt 0:00:52]} Kd6 {
>[%eval 174,20] [%emt 0:00:46]} 64. Bc4 {[%eval 168,20] [%emt 0:00:33]} Kc5 {
>[%eval 180,20] [%emt 0:00:49]} 65. Bb3 {[%eval 179,21] [%emt 0:00:42]} Qf1 {
>(Qh2) [%eval 179,20] [%emt 0:00:23]} 66. Bc2 {[%eval 188,20] [%emt 0:00:41]}
>Qg2 {[%eval 195,20] [%emt 0:00:50]} 67. Kc1 {[%eval 194,21] [%emt 0:00:49]} Qh1
>{[%eval 191,21] [%emt 0:00:52]} 68. Bb3 {(Kb2) [%eval 192,19] [%emt 0:00:44]}
>Kb4 {(Qg2) [%eval 205,19] [%emt 0:00:45]} 69. Ba2 {
>[%eval 204,19] [%emt 0:00:38]} Kc5 {[%eval 192,19] [%emt 0:00:36]} 70. Bg3 {
>[%eval 199,20] [%emt 0:00:38]} Qg2 {[%eval 195,20] [%emt 0:00:44]} 71. Nc3 {
>[%eval 192,20] [%emt 0:00:41]} Kb4 {[%eval 192,20] [%emt 0:01:07]} 72. Be1 {
>[%eval 197,19] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qf1 {[%eval 196,19] [%emt 0:00:24]} 73. Kd1 {
>[%eval 202,19] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qd3+ {[%eval 212,19] [%emt 0:00:54]} 74. Bd2 {
>[%eval 219,21] [%emt 0:00:33]} Qf1+ {[%eval 214,22] [%emt 0:00:38]} 75. Kc2 {
>[%eval 215,23] [%emt 0:00:53]} Qd3+ {[%eval 215,23] [%emt 0:00:59]} 76. Kc1 {
>[%eval 215,23] [%emt 0:01:03]} Kc5 {[%eval 230,21] [%emt 0:00:26]} 77. Bb1 {
>[%eval 230,19] [%emt 0:00:40]} Qf1+ {[%eval 212,17] [%emt 0:00:08]} 78. Kc2 {
>(Kb2) [%eval 231,18] [%emt 0:00:31]} Qg1 {(Qh1) [%eval 220,17] [%emt 0:00:07]}
>79. Kb3 {(Ba2) [%eval 214,18] [%emt 0:01:00]} Qh2 {
>[%eval 223,16] [%emt 0:00:12]} 80. Nxe4+ {[%eval 227,17] [%emt 0:00:42]} Kxd5 {
>[%eval 227,18] [%emt 0:00:54]} 81. Bb4 {[%eval 228,17] [%emt 0:00:22]} Ke6 {
>(Qc7) [%eval 228,15] [%emt 0:00:37]} 82. Nc5+ {[%eval 227,14] [%emt 0:00:11]}
>Ke5 {[%eval 228,16] [%emt 0:00:41]} 83. Bc3+ {[%eval 229,15] [%emt 0:00:25]}
>Kd5 {[%eval 228,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} 84. Bd4 {[%eval 231,17] [%emt 0:00:37]} Qd2
>{[%eval 241,17] [%emt 0:00:38]} 85. Be4+ {[%eval 243,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} Kd6 {
>[%eval 243,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 86. Kc4 {[%eval 241,18] [%emt 0:00:43]} Qa2+ {
>[%eval 241,18] [%emt 0:00:46]} 87. Kb5 {[%eval 246,17] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qg8 {
>[%eval 246,17] [%emt 0:00:26]} 88. Bf5 {[%eval 246,16] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qd5 {
>[%eval 248,16] [%emt 0:00:27]} 89. Bd3 {[%eval 246,17] [%emt 0:00:25]} Ke7 {
>[%eval 248,17] [%emt 0:00:17]} 90. Bc4 {(Be4) [%eval 250,17] [%emt 0:00:20]}
>Qd6 {[%eval 251,17] [%emt 0:00:26]} 91. Be6 {[%eval 251,16] [%emt 0:00:22]}
>Qb8+ {[%eval 255,19] [%emt 0:00:29]} 92. Kc4 {[%eval 255,20] [%emt 0:00:21]}
>Qh2 {[%eval 255,20] [%emt 0:00:38]} 93. e4 {[%eval 257,19] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qa2+
>{(Qe2+) [%eval 258,18] [%emt 0:00:25]} 94. Kb5 {[%eval 261,19] [%emt 0:00:23]}
>Qb1+ {[%eval 268,19] [%emt 0:00:34]} 95. Bb3 {[%eval 268,20] [%emt 0:00:33]}
>Qf1+ {[%eval 268,20] [%emt 0:00:34]} 96. Kc6 {[%eval 268,19] [%emt 0:00:21]}
>Qf4 {[%eval 268,19] [%emt 0:00:32]} 97. Bd5 {[%eval 268,18] [%emt 0:00:35]}
>Qd6+ {[%eval 275,18] [%emt 0:00:32]} 98. Kb5 {[%eval 262,14] [%emt 0:00:04]}
>Qf4 {(Qb8+) [%eval 275,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} 99. Nd3 {
>[%eval 279,15] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qf1 {[%eval 278,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 100. Kc4 {
>[%eval 278,16] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qe2 {[%eval 282,16] [%emt 0:00:19]} 101. Bc5+ {
>[%eval 281,16] [%emt 0:00:14]} Ke8 {[%eval 282,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} 102. e5 {
>[%eval 283,17] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qa2+ {[%eval 284,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} 103. Kd4 {
>[%eval 285,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} Qa1+ {[%eval 285,18] [%emt 0:00:26]} 104. Ke3 {
>[%eval 290,18] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qg1+ {[%eval 290,18] [%emt 0:00:25]} 105. Kd2 {
>[%eval 290,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qg4 {[%eval 292,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} 106. Kc3 {
>[%eval 292,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qg7 {[%eval 292,17] [%emt 0:00:23]} 107. Bc4 {
>(Bd6) [%eval 298,15] [%emt 0:00:19]} Kd7 {[%eval 303,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 108.
>Kb3 {(Bd4) [%eval 304,15] [%emt 0:00:18]} Kd8 {[%eval 305,15] [%emt 0:00:06]}
>109. e6 {[%eval 647,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qb7+ {[%eval 657,16] [%emt 0:00:22]}
>110. Nb4 {[%eval 657,17] [%emt 0:00:25]} Ke8 {
>(Qf3+) [%eval 673,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} 111. Bd3 {
>(Be2) [%eval 889,15] [%emt 0:00:17]} 1-0
So what in the hell did I just miss?? All the guy is saying is the 6 piece is
available at a web site and if interested one can purchase it. Geeez. Just
another fine example of why this site is so unGodly rude.
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