Author: Tony Werten
Date: 05:18:17 05/13/04
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On May 12, 2004 at 22:03:05, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On May 12, 2004 at 18:03:06, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On May 12, 2004 at 17:23:40, Robert Pawlak wrote: >> >>>See my site for more info: >>> >>>www.chessassistance.com >>> >>>Bob >> >> >>As long as there are positions like this one which requires 10 men TBs, Human >>will always be better :-) >> >>Most programs don't even have a clue of what the correct plan is, and for the >>first 30 moves it analyze this position as even, but any IM or Above will >>realize that White is winning from the starting position. >> >>[Event "Shootout (Shredder8, 120'/40+60'/20+30')"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "????.??.??"] >>[Round "?"] >>[White "New game"] >>[Black "?"] >>[Result "1-0"] >>[SetUp "1"] >> >>[D]8/8/3k4/3p4/3PpN2/4P1B1/3qBK2/8 w - - 0 1 > >You don't have to be an IM to see that white is easily winning here. Three >pieces, especially when having two bishops amongst them, are a deadly >combination against which a lone queen stands no chance. > >Falcon also evaluates the position quite realistically: > >Falcon 1.0.12.8 running on GenuineIntel 733MHz 256MB: >depth time nodes nps score variation > 8/19 0.32 60k 189k 1.28 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2a2 3.g6e5 a2c2 > 4.c7d8 e6f5 5.d8e7 > 9/26 0.59 123k 209k 1.28 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2a2 3.g6e5 a2c2 > 4.c7d8 e6d6 5.d8f6 c2c7 >10/22 1.03 221k 214k 1.28 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2a2 3.g6e5 a2b2 > 4.c7d8 b2c2 5.d8g5 e6f5 6.g5e7 >11/24 2.23 504k 225k 1.26 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2a2 3.c7d8 a2d2 > 4.g6e5 e6f5 5.d8e7 f5e6 6.e7c5 e6f5 >11/24 2.66 605k 227k 1.27 1.f4d3++ >12/23 3.82 879k 230k 1.26 1.f4d3 d6e6 2.d3c5 e6f5 3.c5b7 f5e6 > 4.b7d6 d2c2 5.g3f4 c2b2 6.f4e5 b2c2 > 7.e5g3 c2b2 >12/25 5.41 1242k 229k 1.27 1.f4g6++ >13/34 8.60 2004k 232k 1.27 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2a2 3.c7d8 a2d2 > 4.g6e5 d2c2 5.d8g5 c2d2 6.g5f4 e6f6 > 7.e5d7 f6f5 8.d7e5 >14/36 20.27 4736k 233k 1.27 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2b2 3.g6e5 e6e7 > 4.c7a5 e7e6 5.a5d8 e6f5 6.d8c7 >15/33 41.85 9703k 231k 1.28 1.f4g6 d6e6 2.g3c7 d2b2 3.g6e5 e6e7 > 4.c7a5 e7e6 5.a5d8 e6f5 6.d8h4 f5e6 > 7.h4g5 b2d2 8.g5d8 d2c2 You call that easily winning ? You have a bad_trade score a la Crafty ? 1.2 pawns ? That means your engine is seeing it is easily winning with a tremendous 0.08 score. Tony
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