Author: martin fierz
Date: 15:44:50 05/13/04
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On May 13, 2004 at 14:40:37, Russell Reagan wrote: >On May 13, 2004 at 13:51:50, Anthony Cozzie wrote: > >>And in this "sport", the European Champion is almost certainly the world >>champion. After all, both MLB and NBA teams call their best teams the world >>champions, despite not inviting teams from Europe. > >The reason there are no European teams in those leagues is because it is not >practical. Travel time, jet lag, you lose half your audience, and so on, which >results in less money generated, poorer quality of play. > >However, the best players in those sports from Europe (and everywhere else) >would be able to play in those leagues if they so desired. Those leagues pay >players truck loads of money and do whatever it takes to get the best players in >the world. If there is a basketball player from Europe that is among the top >handful of players in the world, every team in the NBA would be offering to fly >him over here and pay him many millions of dollars. I don't see the European >organization doing anything close to that in computer chess. > >These are really two different situations IMO. The NBA, etc. can call their >champion the world champion legitimately, because they took measures to make >sure they had the best players participating. On the other hand, the ICGA >doesn't have millions of dollars (that I'm aware of) to ensure that the best >participants participate. However, there are reasonable alternatives to the >current format that would allow people from all over the world to participate. >They don't seem too interested in that so far. > >If they wanted to ensure that the best participants in the world participated, >they could do so, but they choose not to. > >>It seems fairly obvious to >>me that the chance of any american engine beating Fritz, Shredder, Junior, >>Hiarcs, or Ruffian in a match is very small. > >Crafty running on a mere 4-way box in CCT6 wasn't convincing enough? How about >an 8-way box? 16-way? 32-way? 64-way? All of those are realistic possibilities >of what Bob Hyatt might show up with if he participated in a WCCC. I wouldn't >call that a "very small chance" of winning. I especially wouldn't say that it >was "obvious" that he had a "very small chance" of winning. while this is all correct, remember that doubling the number of processors very clearly has diminishing returns :-) while going from 1->4 is a 3.1 speed increase (i think we can trust this magic number by now...), going from 4->16 will be a much smaller improvement. and of the commercials, at least fritz is also capable of running on a 4-way box. don't know too much about the others, but i guess that most can run on at least a dual. cheers martin
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