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Subject: Re: List of participants for WCCC

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 16:07:48 05/13/04

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On May 13, 2004 at 14:40:37, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On May 13, 2004 at 13:51:50, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>And in this "sport", the European Champion is almost certainly the world
>>champion.  After all, both MLB and NBA teams call their best teams the world
>>champions, despite not inviting teams from Europe.
>
>The reason there are no European teams in those leagues is because it is not
>practical. Travel time, jet lag, you lose half your audience, and so on, which
>results in less money generated, poorer quality of play.
>
>However, the best players in those sports from Europe (and everywhere else)
>would be able to play in those leagues if they so desired. Those leagues pay
>players truck loads of money and do whatever it takes to get the best players in
>the world. If there is a basketball player from Europe that is among the top
>handful of players in the world, every team in the NBA would be offering to fly
>him over here and pay him many millions of dollars. I don't see the European
>organization doing anything close to that in computer chess.
>
>These are really two different situations IMO. The NBA, etc. can call their
>champion the world champion legitimately, because they took measures to make
>sure they had the best players participating. On the other hand, the ICGA
>doesn't have millions of dollars (that I'm aware of) to ensure that the best
>participants participate. However, there are reasonable alternatives to the
>current format that would allow people from all over the world to participate.
>They don't seem too interested in that so far.
>
>If they wanted to ensure that the best participants in the world participated,
>they could do so, but they choose not to.
>
>>It seems fairly obvious to
>>me that the chance of any american engine beating Fritz, Shredder, Junior,
>>Hiarcs, or Ruffian in a match is very small.
>
>Crafty running on a mere 4-way box in CCT6 wasn't convincing enough? How about
>an 8-way box? 16-way? 32-way? 64-way? All of those are realistic possibilities
>of what Bob Hyatt might show up with if he participated in a WCCC. I wouldn't
>call that a "very small chance" of winning. I especially wouldn't say that it
>was "obvious" that he had a "very small chance" of winning.


Anyone can play at the WCCC.  They don't even have qualifiers.  Bob has
legitimate reasons for not going, but they certainly would let him show up . . .

anthony



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