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Subject: Re: Crafty crafty crafty

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:18:04 05/14/04

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On May 13, 2004 at 23:29:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 13, 2004 at 14:40:37, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>After 4 airplanes get hijacked and all shot down or crash (2 dutch ones and 2
>german ones) and a suicide bomber also takes out Omid & Amir & Shay at the rare
>occassion that both were at the same time at some market place, negotiating to
>get another sponsor for the world champs 2004; only then crafty's chances rise
>from 0% to 1%, because that 3d dutch airplane not shot down, not only brings the
>icga tournament direction, but also Johan de Koning who grabs his chance to get
>the title by just winning from crafty. With his PDA he then beats crafty and
>movei and gets world champ.
>
>by the way there are a few beta 8 way opteron NUMA machines where crafty might
>run at, but 64 processor clusters like bob soon has one himself, crafty won't
>run any soon at.
>
>However even if it would run there, as we know in case of a disaster Johan will
>grab his chance and beat it with his PDA.
>
>Of course if Johan loses he still can demand crafty to get excluded when the
>always active uncle Bob has typed over for his new secret bookc.bin lines from
>commercial chess program books.

I've never copied a commercial book.  I don't have access to a single commercial
program.

I believe it was _you_ in the past that claimed to have hijacked commercial
books.  I do my own.

>
>Just go check it out ;)


Feel free to prove that any lines I played in the last CCT event came from a
commercial program's book.  Just like you proved that I wrote a JICCA article on
the crafty parallel search.  Just like you proved...   Well, you really have
_never_ proven anything so forget about it...




>
>>On May 13, 2004 at 13:51:50, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>And in this "sport", the European Champion is almost certainly the world
>>>champion.  After all, both MLB and NBA teams call their best teams the world
>>>champions, despite not inviting teams from Europe.
>>
>>The reason there are no European teams in those leagues is because it is not
>>practical. Travel time, jet lag, you lose half your audience, and so on, which
>>results in less money generated, poorer quality of play.
>>
>>However, the best players in those sports from Europe (and everywhere else)
>>would be able to play in those leagues if they so desired. Those leagues pay
>>players truck loads of money and do whatever it takes to get the best players in
>>the world. If there is a basketball player from Europe that is among the top
>>handful of players in the world, every team in the NBA would be offering to fly
>>him over here and pay him many millions of dollars. I don't see the European
>>organization doing anything close to that in computer chess.
>>
>>These are really two different situations IMO. The NBA, etc. can call their
>>champion the world champion legitimately, because they took measures to make
>>sure they had the best players participating. On the other hand, the ICGA
>>doesn't have millions of dollars (that I'm aware of) to ensure that the best
>>participants participate. However, there are reasonable alternatives to the
>>current format that would allow people from all over the world to participate.
>>They don't seem too interested in that so far.
>>
>>If they wanted to ensure that the best participants in the world participated,
>>they could do so, but they choose not to.
>>
>>>It seems fairly obvious to
>>>me that the chance of any american engine beating Fritz, Shredder, Junior,
>>>Hiarcs, or Ruffian in a match is very small.
>>
>>Crafty running on a mere 4-way box in CCT6 wasn't convincing enough? How about
>>an 8-way box? 16-way? 32-way? 64-way? All of those are realistic possibilities
>>of what Bob Hyatt might show up with if he participated in a WCCC. I wouldn't
>>call that a "very small chance" of winning. I especially wouldn't say that it
>>was "obvious" that he had a "very small chance" of winning.



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