Author: Matthew Herman
Date: 07:13:17 12/17/98
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On December 17, 1998 at 04:46:50, Mark Young wrote: >On December 17, 1998 at 04:09:08, Mike Saavedra wrote: > >>On December 17, 1998 at 03:47:49, Mark Young wrote: >> >> >Lets never kid ourselves, when it comes to chess programs. ELO will always be >>>king to 90% of the people that buy chess programs. All other features tend to be >>>a secondary consideration. I don’t care if it is 1 elo point or 100. So the best >>>answer that rings true to me is, People that spent 100 dollars for a top of the >>>line program in the belief that top money buys also the strongest playing >>>program, never want to hear that a sub 30 dollar program has a stronger engine. >>>So they attack Chessmaster, in the hope that the attack alone will somehow make >>>it untrue. Just a thoery :) >>> >>>> >>>>Mike >> >>90% seems kinda high Mark. >It may be a bit high. I just know the first thing people ask me about a program >is how strong it is. I never have them ask me. What program has the best opening >book feature..ect.ect. Even most of the threads on CCC have to do a programs >strength in one way or the other. > > Couldn't the people who spend $100 simply a few bucks >>more and own CM as well?? > >Yep, but that does not change the facts they already paid $100 bucks for another >program. And don't you find it strange that some of the people that are >attacking Chessmaster have never owned it. Most of the people that are defending >Chessmaster do own it, and own many of the other top programs. > > Besides, most of the programs out there could kick the >>shit out of 90% of us anyways (even freeware). > >Does not matter, People will buy an upgrade to a chess program even if the >program is only a bit stronger then the program they have, and has few if any >new features of use. > > Anything over strong IM for me is >overkill > >But for many, the stronger the better, if this was not true. You would not see >the marketing of a programs chess strength. You would not have seen the flap >that Fritz 5 caused by gaining the top spot on the list. Yes, chess strength is >and will be the most importent feature any chess program can have. > >(perhaps not for professionals, but that is the minority of all the >>chess players). Maybe my interest is different than most here, a better tool to >>manage my games according to theme, good analysis functions, a little coaching >>and/or tutoring, and computer opponents with different and interesting styles. >>Basically, tools to improve my game. Simply having an opponent crush me faster >>is not enough for me....just my opinion, but I don't think solely 10% share it > >10% sounds close to me. :) > >>:) I am not a CM6k (or for that matter any CM chessproduct) hater. I own Fritz5 *AND* cm6k .. Cb7 also .. I don't detract from it.. but I have said that the strong engine is nice.. but it also should be able to do more than simply play games.. some basic things are lacking but cm6k is a very program and has one of the top 5 engines available.. I make these statements WHILE owning cm6k ..
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