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Subject: Re: Baron 130b3 announced Mate in 30 against itself !

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 07:59:20 05/16/04

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On May 16, 2004 at 10:00:09, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 16, 2004 at 09:07:25, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2004 at 05:49:06, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>[D]8/6k1/p7/1p6/PP6/8/K1P5/8 w - - 0 59
>>>
>>
>>
>>I wonder why it didn't see the mate in 18 after axb5.
>
>
>It is typical for programs with part of the tablebases to see longer mate.
>
>KPPP vs K has no practical value so probably 99% of the people do not use them
>
>Here is Crafty with part of the tablebases on P850.
>It can also see a longer mate and plans axb5 a5 and not axb5 axb5 and it takes
>it time to see that axb5 is best with a shorter mate.
>
>New game,
>8/6k1/p7/1p6/PP6/8/K1P5/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Crafty 19.12:
>
>1.Kb3
>  +-  (1.83)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>1.Kb3 Kf6 2.axb5 axb5
>  +-  (1.68)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
>1.axb5 axb5 2.Kb3
>  +-  (1.88)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
>1.axb5 axb5 2.Kb3
>  +-  (2.28)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.axb5 axb5 2.Kb3
>  +-  (3.28)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.axb5 axb5 2.Kb3
>  +-  (5.28)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5
>  +-  (11.64)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6
>  +-  (11.44)   Depth: 4/6   00:00:00
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6
>  +-  (11.84)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:00
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.c4 a5 3.bxa5
>  +-  (11.86)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:00
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.b6 Ke5
>  +-  (12.03)   Depth: 6/8   00:00:00  2kN, tb=17
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.b6 Ke5
>  +-  (12.43)   Depth: 7/9   00:00:00  3kN, tb=25
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.b6 Ke5
>  +-  (13.43)   Depth: 7/9   00:00:00  4kN, tb=29
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd5 4.Kb3 Kd4 5.a8Q
>  +-  (13.63)   Depth: 7/9   00:00:00  5kN, tb=30
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd5 4.Kb3 Ke4 5.a8Q+ Kd4
>  +-  (13.63)   Depth: 8/11   00:00:00  7kN, tb=30
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kc7 5.a8Q Kd6
>  +-  (13.92)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:00  10kN, tb=78
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd5 4.Kb3 Kd4 5.c3+ Ke5 6.c4 Kd4 7.a8Q
>  +-  (14.09)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  25kN, tb=86
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd5 4.Kb3 Kd4 5.c3+ Ke5 6.c4 Kd4 7.a8Q
>  +-  (14.49)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:00  39kN, tb=270
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kd7 5.b5 Kc7 6.a8Q
>  +-  (14.53)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:00  103kN, tb=292
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kd7 5.a8Q Kc7
>  +-  (14.61)   Depth: 12/23   00:00:00  144kN, tb=344
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kd7 5.a8Q Kc7
>  +-  (15.01)   Depth: 13/24   00:00:01  160kN, tb=539
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kd7 5.a8Q Kc7
>  +-  (16.01)   Depth: 13/24   00:00:01  198kN, tb=562
>1.axb5 Kf6 2.bxa6 Ke5 3.a7 Kd6 4.c4 Kd7 5.a8Q Kc7
>  +-  (18.01)   Depth: 13/24   00:00:01  204kN, tb=566
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.b6 Ke5 4.b7 Kd6 5.b8Q+ Kc5 6.Qd6+ Kc4 7.Qb4+ Kd5 8.c4+
>Kd4 9.c5+ Kd3 10.a6
>  +-  (20.31)   Depth: 13/24   00:00:03  1225kN, tb=914
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.b6 Ke5 4.b7 Kd6 5.b8Q+ Kc5 6.Qd6+ Kc4 7.Qb4+ Kd5 8.c4+
>Kd4 9.c5+ Kd3 10.a6
>  +-  (20.71)   Depth: 14/30   00:00:04  1629kN, tb=1093
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 Kf6 3.b7 Ke5 4.b8Q+ Ke4 5.Qe8+ Kf3 6.Qe4+ Kg3 7.Qf4+ Kg2 8.Qf3+
>Kh2 9.bxa5 Kg1 10.a6 Kh2
>  +-  (20.72)   Depth: 14/30   00:00:05  2475kN, tb=1304
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 Kf6 3.b7 Ke5 4.b8Q+ Ke4 5.Qe8+ Kf3 6.Qe4+ Kg3 7.Qf4+ Kg2 8.Qf3+
>Kh2 9.bxa5 Kg1 10.a6 Kh2
>  +-  (21.12)   Depth: 15/32   00:00:06  2908kN, tb=1937
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 Kf6 3.b7 Ke5 4.b8Q+ Ke4 5.Qe8+ Kf3 6.Qe4+ Kg3 7.Qf4+ Kg2 8.Qf3+
>Kh2 9.bxa5 Kg1 10.a6 Kh2
>  +-  (22.12)   Depth: 15/32   00:00:07  3102kN, tb=2030
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 Kf6 3.b7 Ke5 4.b8Q+ Ke4 5.Qe8+ Kf3 6.Qe4+ Kg3 7.Qf4+ Kg2 8.Qf3+
>Kh2 9.bxa5 Kg1 10.a6 Kh2
>  +-  (24.12)   Depth: 15/32   00:00:07  3111kN, tb=2030
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 a4 3.b7 Kf6 4.b8Q Ke6 5.Qe5+ Kd7 6.Qd6+ Kc8 7.Qc7+ Kxc7
>  +-  (#24)   Depth: 15/32   00:00:17  9069kN, tb=4364
>1.axb5 a5 2.b6 a4 3.b7 Kf6 4.b8Q Ke6 5.Qe5+ Kd7 6.b5 Kc8 7.Qc7+ Kxc7
>  +-  (#23)   Depth: 16/34   00:00:21  11048kN, tb=5143
>1.axb5 a5 2.bxa5 Kf6 3.a6 Ke5 4.a7 Ke4 5.a8Q+ Ke3 6.Qe4+ Kf2 7.Qf3+ Ke1 8.Qe2+
>Kxe2
>  +-  (#19)   Depth: 17/37   00:00:41  21520kN, tb=11667
>1.axb5 axb5
>  +-  (#18)   Depth: 18/39   00:02:02  73157kN, tb=20288
>1.axb5 axb5
>  +-  (#18)   Depth: 19/49   00:02:22  82764kN, tb=24931
>
>
>Uri

Crafty with the full 5 man set

White(1): 8/6k1/p7/1p6/PP6/8/K1P5/8 w - - 0 59
White(1): go
end-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166:39 (166:39)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                5->   0.12  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                6     0.12  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                6->   0.12  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                7     0.17  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                7->   0.17  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                8     0.20  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                8->   0.47  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                9     0.47  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
                9->   0.47  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               10     0.48  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               10->   0.86  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               11     0.86  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               11->   0.98  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               12     0.98  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               12->   1.16  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               13     1.16  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               13->   1.50  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
               14     1.50  Mat18   1. axb5 axb5 <EGTB>
?              14     1.50    2/9*  1. c4
White(1): ?
              time=2.31  cpu=4%  mat=1  n=39501  fh=97%  nps=17K
              ext-> chk=5203 cap=57 pp=101 1rep=96 mate=0
              predicted=0  nodes=39501  evals=4857  50move=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes=478  hits=478
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/128  cpu=0.11  elap=2.31

mate in 18 moves.




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