Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Two Rook Endgame Test Positions [Baron-Arasan]

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 13:40:45 05/16/04

Go up one level in this thread


On May 16, 2004 at 15:01:52, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On May 16, 2004 at 11:59:21, Richard Pijl wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2004 at 07:46:09, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>This is from yesterdays ICC tourney. I think, especially without TBs, the
>>>positions might be rather hard.
>>>
>>>[D] 8/1R6/8/7P/2k3P1/1p4K1/8/7r w - - 8 97
>>>
>>>Here Baron played Rb8, allowing a draw. Rb6 wins (I think, everything else
>>>draws).
>>
>> 10(22).   0:42.24   3273271   +1.26  Rb7-b6 Kc4-c3 Kg3-g2 Rh1-h4 Rb6-c6 Kc3-d2
>>                                      Kg2-g3 Rh4-h1 Rc6-d6 Kd2-c3 Rd6-b6 b3-b2
>>                                      (Kg3-f2)
>
>despite the score - the position reached at the end of the pv here comes to a
>dead draw position
>

agreed.

Baron's static eval knows that connected passers are very tough for a lone rook,
especially with the king far away. And alternatives may have already shown a
draw ...

The next ply though, it sees the win. If you look at the timings, those are
interesting as well:
The same machine (P4-2.4, 512MB), same hash settings (120 MB, 32Mb cache),
learning off, but the windows file cache had the relevant EGTB files stored:

 10(22).   0:09.83   3273271   +1.26  Rb7-b6 Kc4-c3 Kg3-g2 Rh1-h4 Rb6-c6 Kc3-d2
                                      Kg2-g3 Rh4-h1 Rc6-d6 Kd2-c3 Rd6-b6 b3-b2
                                      (Kg3-f2)
 11(21)+   0:10.93   3676563   +1.61  Rb7-b6 (Kc4-c3) (h5-h6) (b3-b2) (g4-g5)
(Rh1-h4)
                                      (Kg3xh4) (Kc3-c2) (Kh4-h5) (Kc2-c3)
(g5-g6) (Kc3-c2)
                                      (h6-h7)
 11(23)&   0:14.72   4968620   +2.45  Rb7-b6 Kc4-c3 h5-h6 b3-b2 g4-g5 Rh1-g1
                                      Kg3-f4 Rg1-f1 Kf4-e5 Rf1-e1 Ke5-f5 Re1-f1
                                      Kf5-g6 Rf1-a1 h6-h7 Ra1-h1 Kg6-g7


Richard.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.