Author: Tanya Deborah
Date: 17:32:11 05/16/04
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On May 16, 2004 at 03:18:13, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 15, 2004 at 23:15:49, Tanya Deborah wrote: > >>On May 15, 2004 at 02:10:42, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2004 at 01:17:07, Tanya Deborah wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Hello! >>>> >>>>Can somebody explain to me, why Genius 7.1 has not even been proven >>>>by the SSDF??? >>>> >>>> >>>>Genius 7 is a strong engine with a very solid game style, and i dont understand >>>>why SSDF has not made tests! >>>> >>>> >>>>I think that Genius 7 is not as strong as Fritz8 or Shredder8, but >>>>is very strong, with a big tendency to draw. This engine seems and play >>>>like the great player Ulf Anderson because its very difficult to win against >>>>it, but neither it is not very agressive. I think also, that Genius has a very >>>>different >>>>game style, very different in comparison to the game style of the other >>>>programs. >>>> >>>>I realized that Ssdf proved Genius 6.5 some years ago, >>>>but because they have forgotten Genius 7?? I dont understand... >>>> >>>> >>>>My another question is, is there some way to run the Genius 7 engine >>>>in another Interface like winboard, Chesspartner or some other one? >>>> >>>>I would also like to know, of all the results and the observations that the >>>>experts here >>>>have gotten on this engine. I would appreciate it a lot. >>> >>>The SSDF has to play literally hundreds of games for each engine. Most engines >>>have *some* way to play automatically. Tragically, there are a few chess >>>programs where every single move must be played manually. >>> >>>Imagine, if you will, 400 games at 40 moves / 2 hours. Now, imagine further, >>>that for each chess move you will have to manually enter the moves made by one >>>program into the others. Suppose (for instance) that somehow the games averaged >>>only 3 hours. Then 3 * 400 = 1,200 hours. At minimum wage of $7 per hour, it >>>would cost $8400 to do it. >>> >>>By some miracle of fortitude, the SSDF has managed this stupendous feat with >>>ChessMaster. If they should do it with Genius 7, we should all roar in applause >>>without stopping for one hour, and then we will have emitted only a microscopic >>>fraction of the effort put forth by the SSDF members. >>> >>>By the way, I own a copy of Genius 7. >> >>Hi Dann! >> >>I think it is a pity that a great program like Genius7 does not has an >>autoplayer to play against other programs. Like you said, almost all the >>programs has this option, and it will be nice in the future that Richard Lang >>implement this feature in the next Genius. Genius is a very good program, and it >>need to comeback again, and fight a good place in the SSDF! :-) >> >>Regards! >>Tanya > >I think that old versions of Genius were tested by the ssdf and they supported >the autoplayer. > >I also believe that Richard Lang did not work on improving the engine since >Genius3 so there is nothing special to expect from it(it will probably be >discovered to be the weakest commercial program if they test it) > >Uri Hello Uri. Do you mean that Genius 7 is a weak comercial program? Hmmm i dont think so. Is imposible to know this. Genius 7 does not has autoplayer and is difficult to know, how strong is really this program. Genius always has been a strong program, a very solid program. Indeed i think that this program is not as strong as the best programs. But we need games, a lot of games to prove this. Regards Tanya.
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