Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 11:05:27 05/17/04
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On May 17, 2004 at 04:03:56, Jouni Uski wrote:
>[D]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3q4/8/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq -
>
>All engines I tested want to play -Qe6+ , which is of course dubious. Is there
>engine to find itself better Qa5 or Qd8 at tournament level?
>
>Jouni
Hi Jouni
Here we have a typical example where even some of today's
top engines demonstrate a chess knowledge of a 1500-Elo-
player or less. Of course, 3...Qe6 is a very bad move. It
blocks the development of Black's bishops, does nothing
for the own development and stands very uncomfortable
in the e-file where White will sooner or later win a tempo.
I assume that strong chess players would give 3...Qe6 two ??
with an assessment of: it will be a hard task for Black to
save the game. In my database I have found some games with
3...Qe6 but all of them were (easily) won by White.
Kurt & Rolf Chess: http://www.utzingerkurt.com
[Event "RL-ch"]
[Site "Kettig"]
[Date "1994.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Muellen, Armin"]
[Black "Kohlei, Rolf"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "73"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Nf6 5. d4 c6 6. Nf3 h5 7. h4 g6 8. Bf4
Bg7 9. Qd2 Nd5 10. Nxd5 cxd5 11. O-O Nc6 12. c3 a6 13. Rfe1 Qd7 14. Bd3 Qd8 15.
Bg5 Bf5 16. Bxf5 gxf5 17. Qd3 Qd7 18. Re2 O-O-O 19. b4 f6 20. Bf4 Rde8 21. Rae1
e6 22. a4 Bh6 23. Bxh6 Rxh6 24. b5 axb5 25. axb5 Nd8 26. Ra1 Qg7 27. c4 Rg8 28.
Ne1 Rg6 29. f3 dxc4 30. Qxc4+ Qc7 31. Qd3 Qd6 32. d5 Qxd5 33. Qc3+ Kb8 34. Rc2
Qd7 35. Qa3 Nc6 36. bxc6 bxc6 37. Qa8+ 1-0
[Event "SCO-chT2"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1994.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "McLafferty, B."]
[Black "Little, R."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "65"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Qe2 Qxe2+ 5. Bxe2 e6 6. a3 Nf6 7. Nf3 Nc6
8. d3 a6 9. Bg5 Nd5 10. Nxd5 exd5 11. Bf4 Bd6 12. Bxd6 cxd6 13. h3 O-O 14. O-O
h6 15. Nd2 Re8 16. Bf3 Be6 17. Nb3 Ne5 18. Nd4 Rac8 19. Rac1 Nxf3+ 20. Nxf3 Bf5
21. Nd4 Re5 22. f4 Re7 23. Nxf5 Re6 24. c3 Rc5 25. Rce1 Rf6 26. Nd4 h5 27. Re7
Rg6 28. Rxb7 Rg3 29. Nf5 Rxd3 30. Nxd6 Rd2 31. Rc1 d4 32. Ne4 Re5 33. fxe5 1-0
[Event "World op-U1600"]
[Site "Philadelphia"]
[Date "1995.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "McNerney"]
[Black "Kelly, M."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "25"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 c5 5. Nf3 Nf6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Re1 a6 8.
d4 Qd6 9. d5 Nd8 10. Bg5 b5 11. Bxf6 Qxf6 12. d6 exd6 13. Bxb5# 1-0
[Event "WinBoard 40/120"]
[Site "WinBoard"]
[Date "1999.02.19"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Comet"]
[Black "Cilian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "61"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Bf3 Nc6 6. Nb5 Nb4 7. Nxc7+ Kd8
8. Nxa8 Nxc2+ 9. Kf1 Nxa1 10. d3 Qf6 11. Ne2 Qa6 12. Be3 Bf5 13. Qxa1 Bxd3 14.
Qc1 Bc4 15. b3 Bxe2+ 16. Bxe2 Qc6 17. Qd2+ Qd6 18. Qa5+ Kc8 19. Bxa7 Qc6 20.
Be3 Nh6 21. Bb5 Kd7 22. Bxc6+ bxc6 23. Qc7+ Ke6 24. Qxc6+ Kf5 25. f3 Rg8 26. h4
e5 27. g4+ Nxg4 28. fxg4+ Kxg4 29. Qe4+ Kh5 30. Qf5+ g5 31. hxg5# 1-0
[Event "WinBoard 40/120"]
[Site "WinBoard"]
[Date "1999.03.30"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Sapphire"]
[Black "Cilian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "109"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Nge2 Nf6 5. d4 Qb6 6. Nf4 e6 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O Bxf4 9. Bxf4 Bd7 10. Qd2 Nc6 11. Nb5 Rc8 12. a4 Nd5 13. a5 Nxa5 14. Nxc7+
Nxc7 15. Qxa5 Nb5 16. Qxb6 axb6 17. Ra4 Nc7 18. Ra7 Nd5 19. Bd6 Bc6 20. c4 Nf6
21. Rfa1 Kd7 22. Be5 Ke7 23. b4 b5 24. d5 exd5 25. cxb5 Bd7 26. Rxb7 Ra8 27.
Re1 Kd8 28. b6 Be6 29. Ra7 Rxa7 30. bxa7 Ke7 31. Bb8 Nd7 32. a8=Q Rxb8 33. Qxd5
g6 34. Bb5 Kd8 35. Qg5+ f6 36. Qe3 Rxb5 37. Qxe6 Re5 38. Rxe5 fxe5 39. b5 Kc7
40. Kf1 e4 41. Qc6+ Kd8 42. Qxe4 Nf8 43. Qd5+ Ke7 44. b6 Nd7 45. b7 h6 46. f4
h5 47. h4 g5 48. fxg5 Nb8 49. Qe5+ Kd7 50. Qxb8 Kc6 51. Qa8 Kd6 52. b8=Q+ Kc5
53. Qe5+ Kc4 54. Qa4+ Kd3 55. Qed4# 1-0
[Event "WinBoard 40/120"]
[Site "WinBoard"]
[Date "1999.04.16"]
[Round "7"]
[White "JRCP"]
[Black "Cilian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "139"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Bf3 Nc6 6. Nb5 Nb4 7. d3 Qb6 8.
Nc3 Na6 9. Nd5 Qe6+ 10. Ne2 c6 11. Ndc3 Nf6 12. O-O Qd6 13. Re1 Bg4 14. Ne4
Nxe4 15. Bxg4 Nf6 16. Bh3 e6 17. d4 O-O-O 18. c3 c5 19. Bf4 Qb6 20. Qc2 Bd6 21.
Be3 Qc7 22. g3 h6 23. Rad1 c4 24. d5 Bc5 25. dxe6 Rxd1 26. Rxd1 Bxe3 27. exf7+
Kb8 28. fxe3 Qxf7 29. Qf5 Qe8 30. Qf4+ Ka8 31. Bg2 Nc5 32. Qd4 Na4 33. b4 Nb6
34. Nf4 Rg8 35. e4 Ng4 36. Rf1 g5 37. Nd5 Nxd5 38. exd5 Qe3+ 39. Qxe3 Nxe3 40.
Rf3 Nxg2 41. Kxg2 Rd8 42. Rf5 b5 43. Kf3 Rd7 44. Ke3 Kb7 45. Kd4 a6 46. a4 bxa4
47. Kxc4 Rh7 48. Rf1 Kb6 49. Rf6+ Kb7 50. d6 g4 51. Re6 Rh8 52. Kd5 a3 53. Re2
Rc8 54. c4 Rf8 55. d7 Rd8 56. Kd6 a2 57. Rxa2 h5 58. Ke7 Kc7 59. Rd2 Rh8 60.
d8=Q+ Rxd8 61. Rxd8 h4 62. gxh4 g3 63. hxg3 Kb7 64. h5 Kc7 65. h6 a5 66. h7
axb4 67. h8=Q Kc6 68. Qe5 Kb7 69. Rd7+ Kb6 70. Qb5# 1-0
[Event "DCCC 22nd Open Rapid 90m"]
[Site "Leiden NED"]
[Date "2002.06.01"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Holmes"]
[Black "Shark"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "141"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Nd5 Kd8 6. Ne3 e6 7. Nf3 Bd6 8.
O-O Nf6 9. d4 Bd7 10. Nc4 Nc6 11. Ng5 Ke7 12. Bd3 Qh5 13. Qxh5 Nxh5 14. d5 exd5
15. Nxd6 cxd6 16. Re1+ Be6 17. Bxh7 Nf6 18. Bf5 Nd4 19. Bd3 Nc6 20. f4 Ne4 21.
Nxe4 dxe4 22. Bxe4 g6 23. b3 a6 24. Bb2 Rh4 25. g3 Rh3 26. Rad1 Re8 27. Ba3 Rd8
28. f5 gxf5 29. Bxf5 Rh6 30. h4 Rf6 31. Be4 Rh6 32. Re3 Na5 33. c4 Nc6 34. Bg2
Rg6 35. Be4 Rf6 36. Rd2 a5 37. Rd1 Rh6 38. Ree1 Rh5 39. Bg2 Rhh8 40. Rd5 Rhg8
41. Kf2 Nb4 42. Bxb4 axb4 43. Rb5 Ra8 44. Rxb7+ Kf6 45. Re2 Rab8 46. Ra7 Bf5
47. Ra6 Rgd8 48. Rd2 Ke7 49. a4 Rd7 50. Bc6 Rdd8 51. Kf3 Kf6 52. Be4 Bxe4+ 53.
Kxe4 Ke7 54. Re2 Kf6 55. Kd5 Kf5 56. Re4 Rh8 57. Rxd6 f6 58. Rf4+ Kg6 59.
Rfxf6+ Kh5 60. Kd4 Rbg8 61. Rf3 Kg4 62. Ke3 Re8+ 63. Kf2 Rhg8 64. Rf4+ Kh3 65.
Rd1 Kh2 66. h5 Ref8 67. Rdd4 Rxf4+ 68. Rxf4 Rxg3 69. Rh4+ Rh3 70. Rxh3+ Kxh3
71. h6 1-0
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.09"]
[Round "1.4"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "53"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Nf3 Qxg2 6. Rg1 Qh3 7. d4 Qd7
8. Bf4 g6 9. Ne5 Qd8 10. Bc4 e6 11. Qf3 f6 12. d5 Bd6 13. Bb5+ Kf8 14. dxe6 Qe7
15. O-O-O Qxe6 16. Nc4 Qh3 17. Bxd6+ cxd6 18. Qd5 Qe6 19. Qd2 Nc6 20. Nxd6 Ne5
21. Rde1 a6 22. Ba4 b5 23. Bb3 Qd7 24. Nce4 Nf3 25. Qf4 Nxe1 26. Nxf6 Nd3+ 27.
cxd3 1-0
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.10"]
[Round "1.6"]
[White "Fritz 8"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "123"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Nge2 Na6 5. d4 Nf6 6. a3 Bd7 7. Be3 Ng4 8.
Bf4 O-O-O 9. h3 Nh6 10. d5 Qf6 11. Qd4 Kb8 12. Ne4 Qb6 13. Rd1 Nf5 14. Qxb6
axb6 15. Ng5 Be8 16. Nc3 h6 17. Nf3 g5 18. Be5 f6 19. Bh2 h5 20. Bd3 Bd7 21.
O-O g4 22. Bxf5 Bxf5 23. Nd4 Bg6 24. Rfe1 gxh3 25. gxh3 Rd7 26. Bf4 h4 27. Kh2
Kc8 28. b4 Bh5 29. f3 Bf7 30. Ne6 Bh6 31. Bxh6 Rxh6 32. Re2 Bxe6 33. Rxe6 Rh7
34. Rd3 Kd8 35. Kg2 Ke8 36. Kf2 Kf7 37. Rde3 Rg7 38. Ne2 b5 39. Nc3 Rg3 40. f4
Rxe3 41. Kxe3 Rd8 42. f5 Rg8 43. Ne2 c6 44. dxc6 Nc7 45. Nd4 Rg3+ 46. Kd2 bxc6
47. Rxc6 Nd5 48. Nxb5 Rxh3 49. Rc8 Rg3 50. Nd4 Rg2+ 51. Kc1 Rg1+ 52. Kb2 Rg4
53. Ne6 Rg8 54. Rxg8 Kxg8 55. Nd4 h3 56. Nf3 Ne3 57. a4 Nxf5 58. a5 Nd6 59. a6
Kf7 60. a7 Nc4+ 61. Kc3 Nb6 62. Kd4 1-0
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.22"]
[Round "2.3"]
[White "Hiarcs8 Bareev"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "103"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Bf3 c6 6. Nge2 Nf6 7. d4 Bg4 8.
Bxg4 Qxg4 9. O-O e6 10. f3 Qh4 11. Bf4 Nbd7 12. Qd2 Bb4 13. a3 Be7 14. Bg5 Qh5
15. Ng3 Qg6 16. f4 h6 17. Bxf6 gxf6 18. f5 Qg8 19. Rae1 O-O-O 20. fxe6 fxe6 21.
Qe3 e5 22. Nf5 Qe8 23. Nxe7+ Qxe7 24. dxe5 fxe5 25. Qxa7 Kc7 26. b4 Rhg8 27.
Ne4 Ra8 28. Qe3 Rg6 29. c4 Nb6 30. Qc3 Rag8 31. g3 Kb8 32. Nc5 Rg5 33. a4 Kc8
34. Rd1 e4 35. a5 e3 36. Rd4 e2 37. Re1 Rxc5 38. bxc5 Rf8 39. Qd3 Qxc5 40. Rxe2
Qxa5 41. Qe3 Kb8 42. Kg2 Qg5 43. Qxg5 hxg5 44. Re5 Rg8 45. c5 Nd5 46. Rg4 Rf8
47. Rgxg5 Ka7 48. Re6 Nc7 49. Re1 Ka6 50. Rg7 Nd5 51. Rb1 Re8 52. Rgxb7 1-0
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.14"]
[Round "2.5"]
[White "Chess Tiger 15.0"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "215"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Bf3 c6 6. Nge2 Nf6 7. O-O Bg4
8. Nf4 Bxf3 9. Qxf3 Qf5 10. Re1 Nbd7 11. d3 g5 12. Ne4 O-O-O 13. Qh3 g4 14. Qh4
e6 15. a4 h5 16. Be3 e5 17. Nxf6 Nxf6 18. Ne2 Nd5 19. Qg5 Qxg5 20. Bxg5 Rd7 21.
Bd2 h4 22. Nc3 f6 23. Kf1 h3 24. g3 Nb4 25. Rac1 Rg8 26. Ke2 Be7 27. f3 gxf3+
28. Kxf3 Rh8 29. Kg4 Kb8 30. Ne4 Nd5 31. Rf1 Rdd8 32. Kf5 Rde8 33. Rcd1 a6 34.
c4 Nb6 35. b3 Nd7 36. Be3 c5 37. Nc3 Rhg8 38. Rde1 Bd8 39. Nd5 Kc8 40. Rf2 Rh8
41. Ref1 Rh7 42. Ke4 Rg8 43. a5 Rg4+ 44. Kf5 Rg8 45. Bd2 Kb8 46. b4 Re8 47. Ke4
Re6 48. Bc3 Rh5 49. bxc5 Nxc5+ 50. Ke3 Nd7 51. Rf5 Rh6 52. Bb4 Kc8 53. Ke4 Rh7
54. R1f2 Rh6 55. R5f3 Rh7 56. Kf5 Re8 57. Re3 Rg7 58. Re1 Rgg8 59. Ref1 Rg7 60.
Ke4 Re6 61. Ne3 Rc6 62. Nf5 Rh7 63. Ra2 Kb8 64. Kd5 Ka8 65. Rf3 Rh5 66. Rff2
Ka7 67. Rab2 Rh7 68. Nd6 Nb8 69. Ne4 Nd7 70. Rb3 Ka8 71. Nd6 Nb8 72. Rfb2 Rd7
73. c5 Rcc7 74. Bc3 Nc6 75. Re2 Ne7+ 76. Ke6 Nc6 77. Re4 Be7 78. Rc4 Nd8+ 79.
Kd5 Nc6 80. Rb6 Bf8 81. Rh4 Rd8 82. Rh8 Ka7 83. d4 exd4 84. Bxd4 Nxd4 85. Kxd4
Bxd6 86. cxd6 Rxh8 87. dxc7 Rc8 88. Rxf6 Rxc7 89. Rh6 Rg7 90. Rxh3 Rg5 91. Ke4
Rxa5 92. g4 Ra2 93. g5 Rg2 94. Rg3 Re2+ 95. Kf5 Rf2+ 96. Ke6 Re2+ 97. Kf7 Rf2+
98. Kg8 Rxh2 99. g6 b5 100. g7 Rf2 101. Kh7 Rf7 102. Kh6 Rxg7 103. Rxg7+ Kb6
104. Kg5 a5 105. Kf4 b4 106. Ke3 a4 107. Kd4 b3 108. Kc3 1-0
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