Author: Vincent Lejeune
Date: 11:33:29 05/17/04
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On May 17, 2004 at 13:56:43, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >On May 17, 2004 at 11:25:15, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 17, 2004 at 05:13:03, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 17, 2004 at 00:32:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2004 at 03:15:20, Amir Ban wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 20:03:35, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 18:26:54, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 12:32:26, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 12:16:57, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On May 13, 2004 at 20:17:42, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Not anyone can play. Only people who have several thousand dollars and two >>>>>>>>weeks >>to burn can play. I don't know many people in that situation, or at >>>>>>>>least if >>they are in that situation and participated, the locks would be >>>>>>>>changed when >>they returned home from the trip :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>FYI, travel costs and hardware are sponsored by the organisation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No, they are not. $2000 dollars is not sponsored by the organization, neither >>>>>>>>the hotel, nor the paid time off for two weeks. The entire situation is >>>>>>>>calculated to discourage American participation. The physical format is >>>>>>>>calculated to permit cheating, as was done with the illeagal throwing of a >>>>>>>>drawn game to the eventual "winner". It is a corrupt establishment designed to >>>>>>>>cater to European interests, and to snub Americans. >>>>>>>>It is therefore an irrelevant contest, just like the FIDE World Championship is >>>>>>>>completely irrelevant. >>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>CCT is now the venue for true WORLD comptetition, instead of just European >>>>>>>>competition. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No it's not. I will come to CCT to experiment, if I come at all. Others don't >>>>>>>bother to show up, and why should they ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Right, what commercial product wants to get beat by crafty? It's bad for >>>>>>marketing to loose to the likes of Zappa and bodo. Then people like Vincent and >>>>>>GCP couldn't show up here slamming the professor. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Make up your mind: Is crafty the menace that keeps everyone important from CCT >>>>>or is CCT the all-inclusive tournament ? >>>>> >>>>>I don't understand why I should be scared of meeting crafty at CCT, but not >>>>>scared of meeting it at WCCC. Crafty's been there in previous WCCC most of the >>>>>time. >>>> >>>>I remember 1996/1997. And maybe one other event. That's 3 out of 10 maybe... >>>> >>>>I don't believe the "scared" stuff. I'm not "scared" to play anybody. Heck, I >>>>played Deep Thought, Belle, chess 4.x... That was part of the process. I doubt >>>>any commercial programmer would be "scared". "worried" might well apply as >>>>there are serious hardware platforms that can serve like the old Colt .45 >>>>revolver of the wild-wild west. Often called "the great equalizer". :) >>>> >>>>I don't attend for simple reasons. >>>> >>>>1. Too expensive to travel to Europe every year. If it were in NA every other >>>>year as the charter once demanded, I could at least make those as I always did >>>>in the past, and occasionally make the ones in Europe. >>>> >>>>2. Too long. For the first 25 years these events were 5 rounds and 4 days >>>>long. Now they stretch to two weeks. My only choice would be to make that a >>>>family vacation, and it would have to be scheduled during two breaks that might >>>>possibly be long enough for me to attend. But I don't see the ICCA (or anyone) >>>>trying to work around one participant's schedule, it doesn't make much sense. >>>>It would be easier to just shorten the event. Worst case could be 5 days, 2 >>>>rounds per day, although that still turns into a week with travel days required >>>>for international travel. >>>> >>>>3. Getting a local operator is a non-optimal solution. I can't do any book >>>>updates. >>> >>>I do not understand why you cannot do it. >>>What is the problem to tell the operator to do the exact things that you could >>>do in case of going to Israel? >>> >>>Cannot you talk with the operator by email or by telephone during the >>>tournament? >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Telephone really doesn't help. Can I dictate a couple of hundred chess moves >>over the phone with any reliability? Probably not. >> >>At the 1996 WMCCC event Crafty played in, we could not get _any_ information >>about the pairings, the results of each round. I mean _nothing_. Ditto at the >>1997 WMCCC in Paris. No internet access there or anything. >> >>That is not always the case, but it is the case often enough to make it a >>problem... >> >>I have a pretty long "tournament preparation" document I wrote up for operators >>of Crafty in the past. But it can't cover everything. Particularly trying to >>update the book if something goes wrong... > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?365165 > >What is wrong with playing remote and looking for an operator on site? >Maybe with some webcam you may participate personally as well ;-) >I guess todays internet connection is no major problem between Israel and US, >specially between universities. The early registration deadline was extended >until June 1. IMHO it would be very nice and interesting if Crafty would >participate that way with a huge opteron box! Yes !!! It would be very amazing to see a free-open-source program winning the WCCC ! > >Cheers, >Gerd
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