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Subject: Re: need advice in buying a new computer for WCCC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:34:19 05/17/04

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On May 17, 2004 at 14:45:16, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On May 17, 2004 at 14:30:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2004 at 14:07:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On May 17, 2004 at 12:35:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 11:35:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>My question is what is the speed of the fastest computer that I can get for
>>>>>movei for WCCC when the price is not more than x$ when 2000$>x$>1000$
>>>>>
>>>>>I am interested both in dual and single processor options.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess that I can get slower dual processor for movei for the same price but
>>>>>the advantage is that I can do better testing with pondering so if the
>>>>>difference in speed for movei is less than 20% then I am going to go for dual
>>>>>processor.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I look at some links of dell I get the following information:
>>>>>
>>>>>link A: 2.4ghz intel Xeon 1973$
>>>>>
>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=WS450DPAD&m_11=WXP1&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>
>>>>>link B:3.2Ghz intel 1157$+120$
>>>>>
>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=D4600CPAD&m_11=WHXP&m_22=MSONO&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have no idea which is faster and I have no idea how to get this information.
>>>>>I also know that the p4 is not good for chess and maybe AMD is the best option.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't think twice.  If my program was not SMP-capable, I'd go for a 2.4ghz
>>>>opteron (FX-53).  If I could afford a dual opteron, I'd go that way if
>>>>possible...  But you can't beat the opteron on speed for chess and speed gives
>>>>you the best chance at the WCCC...
>>>
>>>But a dual won't be of much use for a non-SMP program. How about Athlon 64
>>>3000+/3200+/3400+? And Opteron 142/144/...?
>>
>>
>>He specifically mentioned a dual for testing so he could run two programs at
>>once, ponder=on...  And having a dual will be a good reason for working on an
>>SMP search. :)
>
>Yes, but I wonder how Athlon 64 3000+/3200+/... would fare against Opteron
>142/144/... or even 240/242/...


I hate to try to talk about something I have not confirmed with personal
investigation and testing.  But early talk was the opteron was faster, because
it had a memory bus 2x as wide as the athlon 64.  Whether that is true or not I
have no idea.  If true it would certainly make a difference...



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