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Subject: Re: Two Rook Endgame Test Positions [Baron-Arasan]

Author: Frank E. Oldham

Date: 17:15:26 05/17/04

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On May 16, 2004 at 07:46:09, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>Does any engine without TBs find Rb6 in the first pos with convincing score?

Crafty19.10 (no TBs) takes a while but finally finds it in ply 20 ...
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
               15->  26.03   0.01   1. Kg2 Rh4 2. Kf3 Rh3+ 3. Kg2 Rh4
               16    40.14   0.01   1. Kg2 Rh4 2. Kf3 Rh3+ 3. Kg2 Rh4
               16     1:32     ++   1. Kf4!!
               16->   2:07   0.40   1. Kf4 (s=2)
               17     2:46     ++   1. Kf4!!
               17     3:35   1.44   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. Kh6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. g5 Rb8 6. g6 Rh8+ 7. Kg5
                                    Kc2 8. h6 Kd3 9. Kh5 Ke3 10. Kg5
               17->   4:09   1.44   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. Kh6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. g5 Rb8 6. g6 Rh8+ 7. Kg5
                                    Kc2 8. h6 Kd3 9. Kh5 Ke3 10. Kg5
               18     6:11     ++   1. Kf4!!
               18->   7:58   1.83   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. Kh6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. g5 Rb8 6. g6 Rh8+ 7. Kg5
                                    Kc2 8. h6 Kd3 9. Kh5 Ke3 10. Kg5 (s=6)
               19    10:25   1.68   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. h6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. h7 Rh1 6. Kg6 Kc2 7. Kg7
                                    Kd3 8. g5 Ke4 9. g6 Kf5 10. Kf7 Rh4
                                    11. Kg7 (s=5)
               19->  15:35   1.68   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. h6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. h7 Rh1 6. Kg6 Kc2 7. Kg7
                                    Kd3 8. g5 Ke4 9. g6 Kf5 10. Kf7 Rh4
                                    11. Kg7 (s=3)
               20    24:38   1.68   1. Kf4 Kc3 2. Kg5 b2 3. h6 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Rxb1 5. h7 Rh1 6. Kg6 Kc2 7. Kg7
                                    Kd3 8. g5 Ke4 9. g6 Kf5 10. Kf7 Rh4
                                    11. Kg7 Rh1 (s=2)
               20    74:37     ++   1. Rb6!!
               20    96:25   2.25   1. Rb6 Kc3 2. h6 b2 3. g5 Kc2 4. Kf4
                                    b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 Kc2 7. Kg6
                                    Kd2 8. Kh7 Rd1 9. g6 Ke3 10. g7 Rd7
                                    11. Kg6 Rd8
               20->  96:25   2.25   1. Rb6 Kc3 2. h6 b2 3. g5 Kc2 4. Kf4
                                    b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 Kc2 7. Kg6
                                    Kd2 8. Kh7 Rd1 9. g6 Ke3 10. g7 Rd7
                                    11. Kg6 Rd8 (s=2)

>in the second pos, does any engine without TBs see, that Kc3 is really much
>better than alternative moves?
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

Crafty19.10 (no TBs) selects Kc3 pretty quickly at ply 15 and stays with it...
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
               14->  16.47  -0.01   1. ... Rg1+ 2. Kf4 Rh1 3. Rc8+ Kd3
                                    4. Rb8 Kc2 5. Rc8+ Kb1 6. Kg5 b2 7.
                                    h6 Ka2 8. Ra8+ Kb3 9. Rb8+ Kc2 10.
                                    Rc8+ Kd2 11. Rd8+ Kc2 12. Rc8+
               15    38.33   0.10   1. ... Rg1+ 2. Kh4 Kc3 3. h6 b2 4.
                                    Rxb2 Kxb2 5. Kh5 Rh1+ 6. Kg6 Ra1 7.
                                    g5 Kc2 8. h7 Ra6+ 9. Kg7 Ra7+ 10. Kh6
                                    Ra8 11. g6 <HT>
               15     1:02  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3
               15->   1:03  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=7)
               16     1:07  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=6)
               16->   1:20  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=4)
               17     1:31  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=3)
               17->   2:09  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=5)
               18     2:41  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=4)
               18->   4:21  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=4)
               19     5:48  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=3)
               19->  10:16  -0.01   1. ... Kc3 2. Kg2 Rh4 3. Rc8+ Kd2 4.
                                    Rb8 Kc3 (s=4)
Frank



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