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Subject: Re: need advice in buying a new computer for WCCC

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 07:42:49 05/18/04

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On May 17, 2004 at 16:52:44, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On May 17, 2004 at 15:59:31, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:36:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On May 17, 2004 at 13:16:54, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 11:35:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>My question is what is the speed of the fastest computer that I can get for
>>>>>movei for WCCC when the price is not more than x$ when 2000$>x$>1000$
>>>>>
>>>>>I am interested both in dual and single processor options.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess that I can get slower dual processor for movei for the same price but
>>>>>the advantage is that I can do better testing with pondering so if the
>>>>>difference in speed for movei is less than 20% then I am going to go for dual
>>>>>processor.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I look at some links of dell I get the following information:
>>>>>
>>>>>link A: 2.4ghz intel Xeon 1973$
>>>>>
>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=WS450DPAD&m_11=WXP1&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>
>>>>>link B:3.2Ghz intel 1157$+120$
>>>>>
>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=D4600CPAD&m_11=WHXP&m_22=MSONO&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have no idea which is faster and I have no idea how to get this information.
>>>>>I also know that the p4 is not good for chess and maybe AMD is the best option.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>Hi Uri,
>>>>
>>>>what about the ACER Aspire 1500 Notebook series with Athlon 64 3000+ CPU?
>>>>E.g. the Aspire 1501LCe 2*256MB, 40GB HD about 1250€ here.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Gerd
>>>
>>>His best choice is probably an Athlon 64 3400+ Desktop at the moment.
>>>Inexpensive and fast.
>>
>>Yes if transport is no issue.
>>
>>>
>>>Acers Notebook @ 1.8 Ghz is (of course) considerably slower.
>>>Notebooks are also slightly underclocked.
>>>You can't change a thing in their BIOS.
>>>The Toshiba HD in the Aspire is probably 4200 rpm.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>I consider a laptop for travel purposes, e.g. Israel, Dutch Open etc.
>>Is 3000+ real 1.8 GHz only? HD doesn't matter much for me.
>>
>>Gerd
>
>The mobile A64 3000+ is 1,8 Ghz with 1 Mb L2 cache.
>The desktop A64 3000+ is 2 Ghz with 512k L2 cache.

Thanks,

So according to AMD's performance numbers doubling the L2 cache compensates 10%
lower speed  - interesting. I find AMD's Athlon 64 product scheme a bit
confusing:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484,00.html

AMD Athlon™ 64 FX Processor
AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktops
Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor
AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks

So i guess the Acer Notebook with AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor has

AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks
but not
Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor

Tomorrow i will try that Notebook with my 32-bit IsiChess.

Cheers,
Gerd

>
>Michael



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