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Subject: Re: need advice in buying a new computer for WCCC

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 08:04:31 05/18/04

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On May 18, 2004 at 10:46:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 18, 2004 at 10:42:49, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2004 at 16:52:44, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:59:31, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:36:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 13:16:54, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 11:35:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My question is what is the speed of the fastest computer that I can get for
>>>>>>>movei for WCCC when the price is not more than x$ when 2000$>x$>1000$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am interested both in dual and single processor options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess that I can get slower dual processor for movei for the same price but
>>>>>>>the advantage is that I can do better testing with pondering so if the
>>>>>>>difference in speed for movei is less than 20% then I am going to go for dual
>>>>>>>processor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When I look at some links of dell I get the following information:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>link A: 2.4ghz intel Xeon 1973$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=WS450DPAD&m_11=WXP1&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>link B:3.2Ghz intel 1157$+120$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=D4600CPAD&m_11=WHXP&m_22=MSONO&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have no idea which is faster and I have no idea how to get this information.
>>>>>>>I also know that the p4 is not good for chess and maybe AMD is the best option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Uri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>what about the ACER Aspire 1500 Notebook series with Athlon 64 3000+ CPU?
>>>>>>E.g. the Aspire 1501LCe 2*256MB, 40GB HD about 1250€ here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Gerd
>>>>>
>>>>>His best choice is probably an Athlon 64 3400+ Desktop at the moment.
>>>>>Inexpensive and fast.
>>>>
>>>>Yes if transport is no issue.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Acers Notebook @ 1.8 Ghz is (of course) considerably slower.
>>>>>Notebooks are also slightly underclocked.
>>>>>You can't change a thing in their BIOS.
>>>>>The Toshiba HD in the Aspire is probably 4200 rpm.
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>I consider a laptop for travel purposes, e.g. Israel, Dutch Open etc.
>>>>Is 3000+ real 1.8 GHz only? HD doesn't matter much for me.
>>>>
>>>>Gerd
>>>
>>>The mobile A64 3000+ is 1,8 Ghz with 1 Mb L2 cache.
>>>The desktop A64 3000+ is 2 Ghz with 512k L2 cache.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>So according to AMD's performance numbers doubling the L2 cache compensates 10%
>>lower speed  - interesting. I find AMD's Athlon 64 product scheme a bit
>>confusing:
>>
>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484,00.html
>>
>>AMD Athlon™ 64 FX Processor
>>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktops
>>Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor
>>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks
>>
>>So i guess the Acer Notebook with AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor has
>>
>>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks
>>but not
>>Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor
>>
>>Tomorrow i will try that Notebook with my 32-bit IsiChess.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Gerd
>
>32-bit Isichess?
>
>I understood that IsiChess is a bitboard program.

Yes. Compiled with MSC6 for x86-32.

>Maybe you mean that you use 32 bit compiler but I do not think that it is
>justified to call isichess 32-bit.

Ok, it is partly 64-bit due to MMX. But otherwise i would say it is a pure
32-bit executable, despite using 64-bit words.

Gerd

>
>Uri
>>
>>>
>>>Michael



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