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Subject: Re: Komputer Korner calls Chessmaster 6000 a TOY program

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 23:54:53 12/17/98

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On December 17, 1998 at 09:50:25, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:

>On December 16, 1998 at 17:11:20, Komputer Korner wrote:
>
>>This is good news about the CM7 opening book editor, but if they don't also add
>>the capability of analyzing in player player mode with the engine showing on
>>screen analysis and score eval while taking back and moving forward moves, then
>>ChessMaster will still remain a toy program. This is the single most important
>>feature in chess programs which all the high end programs have.
>>--
>>Komputer Korner
>
>
>KK, exactly why do *you* get to decide what's the "single most important
>feature"? I've said it before, and I'm saying it again: I'm a USCF Master
>(pretty strong and serious), and I haven't used this feature in at least a year.
>My best friend is a USCF Master...he doesn't use it either. Our City Champion is
>a USCF 2300, and I asked him what he uses his computer for...he uses it to play
>games, and to analyse games from his students.
>
>So tell me....since we three serious, master-level players don't consider this
>feature very important *at all*, exactly how is it the 'single most important'
>feature?
>
>Yes, I know that you know chess software, but you simply don't speak for all (or
>probably evenb a majority) of computer-using chess players?
>
>Your obsessing on features that many consider trivial (opening book editor, this
>analysis mode) detracts from your toherwise informative and even-handed analysis
>of these programs.
>
>Chris Dorr
>USCF Life Master

Well then you simply aren't using computers to their fullest extent in helping
you study chess. I don't care what your rating is. Even Kasparov uses player
player mode with on screen PV analysis to look at positions. He isn't looking at
the score evaluation of course but he is certainly looking at the PVs. Buy a top
rated prgram like Rebel 10, M-Chess Pro 8 , Junior 5 or the upcoming Hiarcs 7
and use them properly to analyze positions and you will begin to understand how
to study chess with chess engines. Perhaps an opening book editor isn't that
important for some even though it has helped me win more than 1 game, but
analysis in player player mode with on screen analysis of PVs IS the most
important feature of a chess program. CM 6000 doesn't have that. It could be
possible to set up a macro with an add on utility as Richard Fowell says to work
around this but since all top chess programs have this feature, then I have the
right to call CM6000 a toy program without that feature.
--
Komputer Korner



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