Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:28:46 05/18/04
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On May 18, 2004 at 12:47:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 18, 2004 at 11:29:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 18, 2004 at 10:25:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On May 18, 2004 at 10:12:21, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On May 18, 2004 at 09:30:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 09:20:37, Mark Winands wrote: >>>>> >>>>>This is very cool! >>>>> >>>>>ALL REGISTER !!!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>>The money would be better spent making the event attendable remotely instead of >>>>forcing people to spend $2000-$3000 on travel and burning two weeks of paid (or >>>>unpaid) leave. >>> >>>what is this for nonsense? >>> >>>Average professor travels the world for conferences each weekend. >>> >>>I bet average professor claims from his university like 200000 dollar a year >>>expenses just for travel. > > >I did a bit of research. 90% of UAB travel is to in-the-US conferences. >Average cost is $1,000 per conference, including travel, room, food and >registration. Average cost for international conference is $2000. So then they claim quite a bit more probably than they spend? My niece happened to work as a financial bookkeeper and saw therefore for a part of Netherlands the expenses made by all professors. Now it is true that for those on the planet who by default order business class tickets and 5 star hotels that you won't even be able to book a conference for under $12000 :) Apart from that, i happen to know a bunch of professors, 2 of them family members and one of the professors i know is each month in Japan, so don't tell me that costs $2000 a week there :) Shall we say $20000 a week? It would be ridicioulous in itself if in USA professors which cannot get fired easily, that they do claim less than european professors, unless you get that much money as a salary that you don't need it :) So that $1100 ticket from your place to israel. Apologies it's $2200 for you as you travel by default business class i guess, that won't be the biggest problem. Matter of some paper forms. Also if the 4 star hotel isn't good enough for you, there is also 5 star hotels there... >If you take best case of 100% in-us travel, your ridiculous $200,000 per faculty >travel budget you pulled out of your butt would turn into 200 conferences per >faculty per year. At 3 days per conference, plus 1-2 travel days, that would >require 200 * 4.5 days per year. My year has 365 days. How many does yours >have? If you take worst-case and assume all international conferences, that >reduces the number to 100 conferences per year, requiring only 450 days per year >to attend. How long is your year? If you just assume 150 conferences per year, It's nice to know that american professors just attend conferences in USA. In my humble opinion majority of university conferences organized world wide are *not* in USA but elsewhere than in USA. Let's start with this years ICGA conference. Surprise, it's in Israel! >that allows just over 2 days for each one. Including travel. No time for >teaching, research, writing the papers presented at those conferences, etc. >Over here we can't attend a conference unless we present a paper. I don't know >of anyone that writes 150-200 papers per year. > >Your claim is just complete rubbish, as are most of your claims. You give no >thought before making up numbers, and you end up looking like a complete moron >when someone looks at your numbers carefully. > >Here is _another_ example. > >I'm sure it won't be the last. We'll have to wait no longer than for your next >post here... > > > > > >> >>You are about as full of bullshit as anyone I have _ever_ known. >> >>We have about $2,000.00 per year per faculty member for travel. If you have >>federal funding you can ask the sponsoring agency for travel funds as part of >>the grant, but that is limited to about $5,000 per person and it can _not_ be >>used to attend what the fed would call an unnecessary computer chess tournament. >> >>Grow up and stop making things up... >> >> >>> >>>In Netherlands average professor claims 100k euro a year. >> >> >>Bullshit... > >Same problem. The average professor spends 100K on travel? to attend 100 >conferences? again, how long is your year? > > >> >> >>> >>>And all those professors travel daily. Whatever country. Travel travel to >>>conferences. > >Gone every day? "professors"? How can they teach if they are not present? > >By the way. You just cost me another 50 bucks. You _totally_ burned out my >bullshit detector for the third time in 3 months... And this was the >super-duper version made by HP. They claim this has never happened before. > > > > >>> >>>So why not a few days world champs? >>> >>>You are complaining without having even a program yourself. >>> >>>Car dealers also do not market just online. instead they compete in car races >>>too. And that costs them hundreds of millions of dollars. >>> > > >Car dealers don't race. Car -manufacturers- do. There is a difference. > > > >>>Here you can join very cheaply. >>> >>>Getting 500$ for free to visit israel even!!!!!!!! >>> >>>4 star hotel for just 60 dollar a night!!!!!!! >>> >>>Imagine. >>> >>>And you are complaining? >>> >>>You are a nerd! >>> > >I'll just leave that hanging. I think everyone knows exactly what _you_ are by >now..
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