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Subject: Re: need advice in buying a new computer for WCCC

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 12:32:59 05/18/04

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On May 18, 2004 at 10:42:49, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On May 17, 2004 at 16:52:44, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:59:31, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:36:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 13:16:54, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 11:35:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question is what is the speed of the fastest computer that I can get for
>>>>>>movei for WCCC when the price is not more than x$ when 2000$>x$>1000$
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am interested both in dual and single processor options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess that I can get slower dual processor for movei for the same price but
>>>>>>the advantage is that I can do better testing with pondering so if the
>>>>>>difference in speed for movei is less than 20% then I am going to go for dual
>>>>>>processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I look at some links of dell I get the following information:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>link A: 2.4ghz intel Xeon 1973$
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=WS450DPAD&m_11=WXP1&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>link B:3.2Ghz intel 1157$+120$
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=555&oc=D4600CPAD&m_11=WHXP&m_22=MSONO&c=us&l=en&s=biz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have no idea which is faster and I have no idea how to get this information.
>>>>>>I also know that the p4 is not good for chess and maybe AMD is the best option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Uri,
>>>>>
>>>>>what about the ACER Aspire 1500 Notebook series with Athlon 64 3000+ CPU?
>>>>>E.g. the Aspire 1501LCe 2*256MB, 40GB HD about 1250€ here.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Gerd
>>>>
>>>>His best choice is probably an Athlon 64 3400+ Desktop at the moment.
>>>>Inexpensive and fast.
>>>
>>>Yes if transport is no issue.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Acers Notebook @ 1.8 Ghz is (of course) considerably slower.
>>>>Notebooks are also slightly underclocked.
>>>>You can't change a thing in their BIOS.
>>>>The Toshiba HD in the Aspire is probably 4200 rpm.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I consider a laptop for travel purposes, e.g. Israel, Dutch Open etc.
>>>Is 3000+ real 1.8 GHz only? HD doesn't matter much for me.
>>>
>>>Gerd
>>
>>The mobile A64 3000+ is 1,8 Ghz with 1 Mb L2 cache.
>>The desktop A64 3000+ is 2 Ghz with 512k L2 cache.
>
>Thanks,
>
>So according to AMD's performance numbers doubling the L2 cache compensates 10%
>lower speed  - interesting. I find AMD's Athlon 64 product scheme a bit
>confusing:
>
>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484,00.html
>
>AMD Athlon™ 64 FX Processor
>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktops
>Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor
>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks
>
>So i guess the Acer Notebook with AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor has
>
>AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor for Desktop Replacement Notebooks
>but not
>Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor
>
>Tomorrow i will try that Notebook with my 32-bit IsiChess.

I think 60 GB HDs are standard for Desktop replacement Notebooks.
It's always the same.
In a few months you would get an Aspire 1513 LMi 3400+ Athlon 64 Notebook (60 GB
HD) for your money.

Michael


Michael

>
>Cheers,
>Gerd
>
>>
>>Michael



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