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Subject: Re: Hardware and WCCC limits? 1/4 MB !

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:33:19 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 08:38:55, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 07:15:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 01:02:26, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>>
>>You obviously never wrote a chessprogram writing such utter nonsense at your
>>homepage about executable size.
>
>Vincent, please cool down.
>
>Obviously you know neither me nor my experiences with that theme.
>
>May be you have not noticed, that I am always talking of the size of the
>persistent data and exe AFTER COMPRESSING it, e.g. by WinRar.
>
>Regards, Reinhard.

I'm not using winrar but RKC.

See for example : http://www.maximumcompression.com/programs.php

So whatever your uncompressed size, mine will be up to 4 to 10 times smaller in
size than your outdated compression standards.

If i want to compress fast i'm using 7-zip btw.

Also a single compile option can matter 500KB in size easily.

Further moving from x86 hardware to IPF hardware means executable size for same
program with same compiler already grows a factor 2-3.

That's without being optimized of course with PGO.

When you optimize with PGO your executable at IPF grows bigtime in size.

Now so far we still discussed just C software.

How about C++ guys, or delphi guys?

They make no chance in your definition....

>>>On May 19, 2004 at 00:29:42, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>>
>>>>Are there any kind of hardware limitations in computer competitions?
>>>>
>>>>If not, I'd imagine people would just bring a small custom cluster.
>>>>
>>>>TSCP would beat Hiarcs or Shredder if tscp was parallelized and Hiarcs was on a
>>>>486.
>>>>
>>>>Just an idea; perhaps there should be some kind of limitation.
>>>>If not then you're not really testing the strength of the engines, but a
>>>>combination of code and hardware. In that case, whoever has the most money has a
>>>>huge advantage. Especially if clustering is allowed.
>>>>
>>>Just my $0.02, curious to your opinions.
>>>
>>>Have you ever seen my limitation proposal to that theme at:
>>>
>>>[http://homepages.compuserve.de/rescharn/Compu/schachfair_e.html]
>>>
>>>Regards, Reinhard.



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