Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 07:38:08 05/19/04
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On May 19, 2004 at 10:30:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 19, 2004 at 10:25:05, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>On May 19, 2004 at 10:09:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2004 at 09:57:04, Daniel Clausen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2004 at 07:27:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 03:35:39, Daniel Clausen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 03:02:05, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>[snip] >>>>>> >>>>>>>That is the goal of the WCCC, to have a competition between the best >>>>>>>computerized chess playing entities, not to test which software is the >>best. >>>> >>>>>>Yes, but strictly speaking this would mean that a company selling program >>XYZ >>>>wouldn't be allowed to write WCCC2004 winner on their software package, >>as it >>>>was not the software but software+hardware which actually won the >>tournament. >>>> >>>>>>Sargon >>>>> >>>>>This is a nonsense of course. >>>> >>>>Let me rephrase it: when you play a tournament like WCCC, where the pair >>HW/SW >>is tested and your particular HW/SW combination wins, then it's not >>"correct" to >>silently skip the HW part and just claim your SW part won. >>>> >>>>I guess you still think it's nonsense. If so, you're welcome to be a bit more >>>>specific and say _what exactly_ is nonsense about it. >>>> >>>>Sargon >>> >>>You really are overrating hardware. >> >> >>This is uniquely true of DIEP. No matter if it runs on a 90 mhz machine or a >>400cpu x 500mhz supercomputer, it plays consistently at the FM level -- a feat >>of programming mastery unequaled in the annals of computer chess. >> >>However, it would be a mistake to assume other projects are as well engineered. > >Why not show up at world champs operating crafty? Crafty does not need an operator. Crafty incorporates features of automation which permit it to play entire tournaments without human intervention. Since Omid says that internet access is available at the event, all you have to do is connect to ICC with free software. Then you and the other participants will have the chance play the winner of the latest Internet World Computer Chess Championship. BTW, where was DIEP at the last IWCCC? I guess the programmer didn't think he could win. > >Then you can see whether crafty is already at 'fm' level.
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