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Subject: Re: HYDRA? Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 08:15:48 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 11:00:08, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 08:35:25, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:10:58, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:03:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:36:40, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not
allow >>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel.
>>>>>>Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Maybe if Hydra could connect remotely, the sponsors wouldn't disallow
it...(?) >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As you know Hydra is now owned by a company in United Arab Emirates.
Combine >>>>that with the fact that the tournament is held in Israel, and you
get political >>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>We clearly told the Hydra team that they are most welcomed to play here
under >>>>the flag of United Arab Emirates, but apparently their sponsors do
not want to >>>>play here.
>>>>
>>>>Personally I find it very unfortunate that political considerations of UAE
stop >>>>Hydra from participating in the WCCC.
>>>
>>>And unfortunately this is not the first time politics get involved in
>>>computer-chess world championships. In 1996 Jakarta WMCCC Junior team were
told >>>by the organizers that they are not welcomed to play there under the
Israeli >>>flag. Exactly the opposite of what's happening here...
>>
>>
>>Another example of how the ICGA learn nothing.  Jakarta was just another
"clue". >> If the location of the event was "The Internet", then ALL such
problems would >>evaporate.
>
>That's right: internet tourneys can be nice and interesting too.
>
>But imho they can never replace real life tourneys where the developers have
>occasion to meet and chat while playing or later in a relaxed athmosphere
while >having a beer or whatever.


That is a luxury most programmers cannot afford.  It's fine for local European
tournaments where everyone is relatively close to the location.  But then it
becomes a little club instead of a true international event.


>
>I personally appreciate a lot that ICGA and our Israelian friends are
organizing >this event.


I'm glad for Omid that he could bring the event to his country.  It's just too
bad that most people simply cannot attend for very practical reasons.  It
illustrates the obsolescence of the format, and the obtuseness of the
ICGA management.  They have effectively killed the relavence of the event.


Since ICGA will not change, the rest of the world will simply ignore them and
continue with their own, open and inclusive world event.  No one is going to
care about the ICGA outcome when the strongest amateur projects, and the UAE
project are missing because the ICGA's refuses to make it internet accessible.



>
>Uli
>
>
>
>>But the organization is "clueless".
>>
>>The ICGA is dead.  Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship
>>(a.k.a. CCT).
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  José C.



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