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Subject: Re: HYDRA? Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:44:00 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 11:29:24, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 11:00:08, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 08:35:25, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:10:58, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:03:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:36:40, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow
>>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel.
>>>>>>>Richard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Maybe if Hydra could connect remotely, the sponsors wouldn't disallow it...(?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As you know Hydra is now owned by a company in United Arab Emirates. Combine
>>>>>that with the fact that the tournament is held in Israel, and you get political
>>>>>problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>We clearly told the Hydra team that they are most welcomed to play here under
>>>>>the flag of United Arab Emirates, but apparently their sponsors do not want to
>>>>>play here.
>>>>>
>>>>>Personally I find it very unfortunate that political considerations of UAE stop
>>>>>Hydra from participating in the WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>And unfortunately this is not the first time politics get involved in
>>>>computer-chess world championships. In 1996 Jakarta WMCCC Junior team were told
>>>>by the organizers that they are not welcomed to play there under the Israeli
>>>>flag. Exactly the opposite of what's happening here...
>>>
>>>
>>>Another example of how the ICGA learn nothing.  Jakarta was just another "clue".
>>> If the location of the event was "The Internet", then ALL such problems would
>>>evaporate.
>>
>>That's right: internet tourneys can be nice and interesting too.
>>
>>But imho they can never replace real life tourneys where the developers have
>>occasion to meet and chat while playing or later in a relaxed athmosphere while
>>having a beer or whatever.
>
>  I haven't had a chance to participate in such a tournament, but I'm sure it
>must be fun. But being fun is not a good reason for it to be exclusive and still
>pretend it is "the world championship".
>  I believe that such tournaments should still happen for the enjoyment of the
>programmers who can afford them, and then the world champs should move to an
>inclusive direction to allow most programs to participate.
>
>  José C.

You want it to be organized forever in Paderborn?

>
>>I personally appreciate a lot that ICGA and our Israelian friends are organizing
>>this event.
>>
>>Uli
>>
>>
>>
>>>But the organization is "clueless".
>>>
>>>The ICGA is dead.  Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship
>>>(a.k.a. CCT).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  José C.



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