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Subject: Re: HYDRA? Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship

Author: José Carlos

Date: 08:46:34 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 11:44:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 11:29:24, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 11:00:08, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2004 at 08:35:25, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:10:58, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:03:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:36:40, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow
>>>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel.
>>>>>>>>Richard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Maybe if Hydra could connect remotely, the sponsors wouldn't disallow it...(?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As you know Hydra is now owned by a company in United Arab Emirates. Combine
>>>>>>that with the fact that the tournament is held in Israel, and you get political
>>>>>>problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We clearly told the Hydra team that they are most welcomed to play here under
>>>>>>the flag of United Arab Emirates, but apparently their sponsors do not want to
>>>>>>play here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Personally I find it very unfortunate that political considerations of UAE stop
>>>>>>Hydra from participating in the WCCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>And unfortunately this is not the first time politics get involved in
>>>>>computer-chess world championships. In 1996 Jakarta WMCCC Junior team were told
>>>>>by the organizers that they are not welcomed to play there under the Israeli
>>>>>flag. Exactly the opposite of what's happening here...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Another example of how the ICGA learn nothing.  Jakarta was just another "clue".
>>>> If the location of the event was "The Internet", then ALL such problems would
>>>>evaporate.
>>>
>>>That's right: internet tourneys can be nice and interesting too.
>>>
>>>But imho they can never replace real life tourneys where the developers have
>>>occasion to meet and chat while playing or later in a relaxed athmosphere while
>>>having a beer or whatever.
>>
>>  I haven't had a chance to participate in such a tournament, but I'm sure it
>>must be fun. But being fun is not a good reason for it to be exclusive and still
>>pretend it is "the world championship".
>>  I believe that such tournaments should still happen for the enjoyment of the
>>programmers who can afford them, and then the world champs should move to an
>>inclusive direction to allow most programs to participate.
>>
>>  José C.
>
>You want it to be organized forever in Paderborn?

  Are you talking to me?
  What are you talking about?

  José C.


>>>I personally appreciate a lot that ICGA and our Israelian friends are organizing
>>>this event.
>>>
>>>Uli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>But the organization is "clueless".
>>>>
>>>>The ICGA is dead.  Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship
>>>>(a.k.a. CCT).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  José C.



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