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Subject: Re: List of participants for WCCC

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 09:24:23 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 12:03:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 09:01:37, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 08:48:54, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2004 at 03:38:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 13:56:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 13:46:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope that makes it clear why _I_ have not said much about playing this year.
>>>>>>>Who knows _what_ rule(s) the ICCA will use this time around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know. And I have told you many times.
>>>>>
>>>>>That is _really_ convincing.  You guys don't even want to produce a list of who
>>>>>is playing???
>>>>
>>>>Check the WCCC page today.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Last time I looked _you_ didn't speak for the ICCA any more than the organizers
>>>>>of the WCCC I tried to enter a couple of years back spoke for it.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know when or where you looked, or what happened in Paris or Jakarta that
>>>>you frequently mention. What I know is about WCCC 2004, and I am telling you in
>>>>the clearest possible way what will be the case here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At the CCT we manage to have an _open_ discussion about the rules _before_ the
>>>>>event, and then we go by those rules.  The ICCA might try that at some point in
>>>>>time, perhaps???
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd love to play remotely.  Once it becomes obvious that doing so is "OK".
>>>>
>>>>We don't provide operators here. But if you send someone to operate Crafty on
>>>>your behalf, that is OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>Since you have internet access at the event, just log Crafty's opponents onto
>>>ICC and play.  That will save the enourmous cost of sending a human to play
>>>moves manually on a physical board.
>>
>>We would very much like to have Crafty here, but I don't think Crafty is more
>>important than Shredder, Junior, Fritz, Diep, Deep Sjeng, ParSOS, IsiChess, etc,
>>to deserve a special treatment.
>
>I've never asked for "special treatment".  I have only asked for "the same
>treatment".  I've already given in another response to you exactly how I was
>_not_ treated the same as a commercial entry (the commercials paid a higher
>entry fee so I presume that was the driving force to get them there no matter
>what).
>
>All I want is "clear and consistent" treatment.  3-4 years ago non-author
>operators were ok (I entered 4 such events if I recall since 1996).  The next
>year with no announcement, they were not.  After I gave up on attending, with
>absolutely no public announcement, the ICCA then decided to let a commercial
>program (I don't recall which one, Bruce will probably remember as I believe he
>attended) use a non-author operator.
>
>"fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."  I'm trying to avoid
>getting fooled a second time...
>
>>
>>Bob repeats the "I don't know, you don't know" thing over and over. But I have
>>all along said clearly how the tournament will be held here, and just repeated
>>it. If he comes here, or sends someone on his behalf to operate Crafty, then
>>Crafty will participate. Otherwise it won't.
>
>See above.  The ICCA can (and has) changed the rules a week before the event.  I
>doubt you can prevent that.

The rules won't change. If you have an operator here, there won't be any
problem.



>
>
>>
>>
>>>That is such a no-brainer.  But alas, there are no brains running this event.
>>
>>Thank you for your compliments. If instead of attacking us so much you have
>>tried to organize next year's WCCC somewhere in the US, we might have all been
>>enlightened by your brains and wisdom...



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