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Subject: Re: Where's Hydra?

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 13:02:53 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 15:55:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 14:31:41, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
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>>On May 19, 2004 at 13:29:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:14:12, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:07:45, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
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>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow
>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel.
>>>>>>Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Someone please tell me that this is a rumor or missunderstanding. They banned a
>>>>>chess engine from participation due to the country of its creator?
>>>>
>>>>Exactly the opposite. We (organizers) told the Hydra team that they are welcomed
>>>>to play in Israel under the UAE flag. But apparently their sponsors decided that
>>>>they don't want to play in Israel.
>>>>
>>>>Last time an engine was banned from participation due to the country of its
>>>>creator was in Jakarta WMCCC 1996. The Junior team was not allowed to play there
>>>>because Junior is an Israeli program.
>>>
>>>I was under the impression that was not exactly the truth, the whold truth and
>>>nothing but the truth.  In fact, Junior was expected there.  I received a phone
>>>call in the wee hours of the morning from Bruce Moreland, asking me to help him
>>>contact Amir since they had not shown up.
>>>
>>>I believe this was a case of "they didn't feel welcome and chose not to attend
>>>for that reason."  IE I can't really fault someone for not wanting to fly a UAE
>>>flag in the middle of Israel either.
>>>
>>>So, IMHO it was more a matter of they didn't participate for many good reasons,
>>>but I don't think they were _prevented_ from participating...
>>
>>Based on what I have read and heard, it was made clear to them that they cannot
>>play under the Israeli flag in Jakarta. In other words, they were prevented from
>>participation. Of course Amir or Shay can correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>Probably was (a) a sane decision to not fly an Israeli flag there and (b) a
>reasonable decision for them not to attend if they could not.  As I said, a bit
>of both...
>

I quoted Shay Bushinsky in the following post:
http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?366082

Based on that, it was not a decision on behalf of the Junior team not to attend,
they were simply *banned* from participation.



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>>>>>I don't want
>>>>>to lead the discussion into a political debate here but if the above statement
>>>>>is true, this bigotry should not be condoned and further posting of this event
>>>>>should not be allowed here.



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