Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 13:54:50 05/19/04
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On May 19, 2004 at 11:50:17, Richard Pijl wrote: >> >> >>All the other participants were programmed with the advanced idea of automated >>play. The programmer's presence was not required. For instance, crafty plays >>in the weekly Grand Prix qualifier completely unattended. >> >> >>It's too bad DIEP was not programmed to play by itself. Then you could have >>participated in both events through the wonders of technology. >> >> >>Oh well. Perhaps those advanced features will grace the next version of DIEP. >> >> > >You do not seem to grasp the idea behind participating in a tournament. > >It is not about playing games. >It is not about winning prizes. >It is not about pleasing spectators > >It is about meeting the other participants. >It is about fair competition with minimized fraud possibilities. (hitting the >'move-now' button or changing engine setting mid-game is easy when you can't >been seen by your opponent) > >I've participated in the last two CCT-tournaments. I also join in the grand-prix >cycle on ICC. I think it is a nice way of organizing a tournament. But chat >online is limited, and channel 64 is (during CCT) usually spammed by nitwits. >I've also participated in 3 CSVN tournaments, 2 Dutch championships and one >tournament in Paderborn, all requiring presence of the author/operator. I also >visited (as a spectator) Maastricht 2002 twice, and Paderborn 2003. I had to >skip Graz 2003 because of my daughters birthday that was during the tournament. >If I have to chose between participating in an on-site tournament and an on-line >tournament I'll choose the on-site tournament if my funds are sufficient. >There you'll have the possibility of really meet all the heroes of computer >chess, drink a beer with them and have dinner with them. I don't see that >happening in an online tournament. > >Richard. Rather than continue with a typical decide, announce and defend debate, with each side digging themselves deeper into their respective trenches (This is not a criticism of your post.), I wonder what could be done to mitigate the disadvantages of on-line events. Not necessarily to replace ICGA WCCC, but it does seem peculiar that in the internet age, the (premier) WCCC event is becoming more exclusive - and, I might add, introspective. Kib during the search (and perhaps logging) is one obvious way to help mitigate some of the cheating issues. Perhaps a more forward thinking ICGA could even have their own chess server for these events, which automatically logged output for future analysis as necessary. I am sure others would have much better ideas if they tried. As far not meeting people in the flesh, this would be a big loss, on average. Frank
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