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Subject: Re: Where's Hydra?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:07:34 05/19/04

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On May 19, 2004 at 16:02:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On May 19, 2004 at 15:55:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On May 19, 2004 at 14:31:41, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
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>>>On May 19, 2004 at 13:29:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:14:12, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:07:45, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow
>>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel.
>>>>>>>Richard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Someone please tell me that this is a rumor or missunderstanding. They banned a
>>>>>>chess engine from participation due to the country of its creator?
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly the opposite. We (organizers) told the Hydra team that they are welcomed
>>>>>to play in Israel under the UAE flag. But apparently their sponsors decided that
>>>>>they don't want to play in Israel.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last time an engine was banned from participation due to the country of its
>>>>>creator was in Jakarta WMCCC 1996. The Junior team was not allowed to play there
>>>>>because Junior is an Israeli program.
>>>>
>>>>I was under the impression that was not exactly the truth, the whold truth and
>>>>nothing but the truth.  In fact, Junior was expected there.  I received a phone
>>>>call in the wee hours of the morning from Bruce Moreland, asking me to help him
>>>>contact Amir since they had not shown up.
>>>>
>>>>I believe this was a case of "they didn't feel welcome and chose not to attend
>>>>for that reason."  IE I can't really fault someone for not wanting to fly a UAE
>>>>flag in the middle of Israel either.
>>>>
>>>>So, IMHO it was more a matter of they didn't participate for many good reasons,
>>>>but I don't think they were _prevented_ from participating...
>>>
>>>Based on what I have read and heard, it was made clear to them that they cannot
>>>play under the Israeli flag in Jakarta. In other words, they were prevented from
>>>participation. Of course Amir or Shay can correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>>Probably was (a) a sane decision to not fly an Israeli flag there and (b) a
>>reasonable decision for them not to attend if they could not.  As I said, a bit
>>of both...
>>
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>I quoted Shay Bushinsky in the following post:
>http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?366082
>
>Based on that, it was not a decision on behalf of the Junior team not to attend,
>they were simply *banned* from participation.
>

reread what you posted.  They were not "banned".

Unless you redefine banned to mean something other than "not allowed".  As I
said, they could have participated, not representing Israel.  I don't like that
option and as I also said, I considered their not showing up as "a reasonable
decision".


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>>>>>>I don't want
>>>>>>to lead the discussion into a political debate here but if the above statement
>>>>>>is true, this bigotry should not be condoned and further posting of this event
>>>>>>should not be allowed here.



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