Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:07:34 05/19/04
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On May 19, 2004 at 16:02:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On May 19, 2004 at 15:55:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 19, 2004 at 14:31:41, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2004 at 13:29:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:14:12, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:07:45, Bryan Hofmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jouni >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow >>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel. >>>>>>>Richard. >>>>>> >>>>>>Someone please tell me that this is a rumor or missunderstanding. They banned a >>>>>>chess engine from participation due to the country of its creator? >>>>> >>>>>Exactly the opposite. We (organizers) told the Hydra team that they are welcomed >>>>>to play in Israel under the UAE flag. But apparently their sponsors decided that >>>>>they don't want to play in Israel. >>>>> >>>>>Last time an engine was banned from participation due to the country of its >>>>>creator was in Jakarta WMCCC 1996. The Junior team was not allowed to play there >>>>>because Junior is an Israeli program. >>>> >>>>I was under the impression that was not exactly the truth, the whold truth and >>>>nothing but the truth. In fact, Junior was expected there. I received a phone >>>>call in the wee hours of the morning from Bruce Moreland, asking me to help him >>>>contact Amir since they had not shown up. >>>> >>>>I believe this was a case of "they didn't feel welcome and chose not to attend >>>>for that reason." IE I can't really fault someone for not wanting to fly a UAE >>>>flag in the middle of Israel either. >>>> >>>>So, IMHO it was more a matter of they didn't participate for many good reasons, >>>>but I don't think they were _prevented_ from participating... >>> >>>Based on what I have read and heard, it was made clear to them that they cannot >>>play under the Israeli flag in Jakarta. In other words, they were prevented from >>>participation. Of course Amir or Shay can correct me if I'm wrong. >> >>Probably was (a) a sane decision to not fly an Israeli flag there and (b) a >>reasonable decision for them not to attend if they could not. As I said, a bit >>of both... >> > >I quoted Shay Bushinsky in the following post: >http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?366082 > >Based on that, it was not a decision on behalf of the Junior team not to attend, >they were simply *banned* from participation. > reread what you posted. They were not "banned". Unless you redefine banned to mean something other than "not allowed". As I said, they could have participated, not representing Israel. I don't like that option and as I also said, I considered their not showing up as "a reasonable decision". > > >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I don't want >>>>>>to lead the discussion into a political debate here but if the above statement >>>>>>is true, this bigotry should not be condoned and further posting of this event >>>>>>should not be allowed here.
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