Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 16:07:36 05/19/04
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On May 19, 2004 at 11:50:17, Richard Pijl wrote: > >You do not seem to grasp the idea behind participating in a tournament. > >It is not about playing games. >It is not about winning prizes. >It is not about pleasing spectators > >It is about meeting the other participants. Good point. From a personal POV that's the only reason why I'd want to go, but now since ICGA allows non-author operators that reason has become somewhat less important. From an outsider though, I've found these last ICGA tournaments hard to follow. In CCTs all the spectators are treated like kings, the information is right there at the tip of their fingers scrolling down in the window. I think that's the right way to do it, after all the spectators outnumber the authors easily by a factor 100. And let's face it, no sport can really make it in the long run without treating the spectators and fans like royalty. >It is about fair competition with minimized fraud possibilities. (hitting the >'move-now' button or changing engine setting mid-game is easy when you can't >been seen by your opponent) Automatic kibitzing goes a long way to eliminate this. Sure there are probably a few obvious moves where "move now" would save a bit of time, I doubt we would be talking more than a dozen elo though. It is also possible the operator would weaken the program by doing this, ie. he might let the program run for an extended time on a position where he feels there is a better move than the one shown in the PV, chances are he is mistaken and just wasted a lot of time. It might be an interesting experiment to let a human control the time-control, just to see if there is a big potential here or not. I think the it is a bit overrated, unless perhaps we are talking about really strong humans operators. >I've participated in the last two CCT-tournaments. I also join in the grand-prix >cycle on ICC. I think it is a nice way of organizing a tournament. But chat >online is limited, and channel 64 is (during CCT) usually spammed by nitwits. :) I think it is great how all these nitwits feel they are a part of the tournament, I really consider this to be one of the big advantages of CCT. The authors can always discuss and post-analyze the games here the day after, we usually do that anyway iirc. :) >I've also participated in 3 CSVN tournaments, 2 Dutch championships and one >tournament in Paderborn, all requiring presence of the author/operator. I also >visited (as a spectator) Maastricht 2002 twice, and Paderborn 2003. I had to >skip Graz 2003 because of my daughters birthday that was during the tournament. >If I have to chose between participating in an on-site tournament and an on-line >tournament I'll choose the on-site tournament if my funds are sufficient. >There you'll have the possibility of really meet all the heroes of computer >chess, drink a beer with them and have dinner with them. I don't see that >happening in an online tournament. This is great, for you and the other handful of people, it just doesn't go a long way to promote the game :( The WCCC is a unique oppotunity to promote the game, it really shouldn't be wasted on a reunion of a few old friendships, IMHO, no offence. Let's not be selfish here, let's do what is best for the game! :) -S. >Richard.
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