Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 19:48:08 05/19/04
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On May 19, 2004 at 11:46:34, José Carlos wrote: >On May 19, 2004 at 11:44:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On May 19, 2004 at 11:29:24, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2004 at 11:00:08, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2004 at 08:35:25, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:10:58, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 06:03:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:36:40, José Carlos wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:33:50, Richard Pijl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 05:05:54, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Number 1 favourite is missing, why? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Jouni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hydra is officially from the UAE. As I understood the sponsors do not allow >>>>>>>>>Hydra to participate in an event in Israel. >>>>>>>>>Richard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe if Hydra could connect remotely, the sponsors wouldn't disallow it...(?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As you know Hydra is now owned by a company in United Arab Emirates. Combine >>>>>>>that with the fact that the tournament is held in Israel, and you get political >>>>>>>problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We clearly told the Hydra team that they are most welcomed to play here under >>>>>>>the flag of United Arab Emirates, but apparently their sponsors do not want to >>>>>>>play here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Personally I find it very unfortunate that political considerations of UAE stop >>>>>>>Hydra from participating in the WCCC. >>>>>> >>>>>>And unfortunately this is not the first time politics get involved in >>>>>>computer-chess world championships. In 1996 Jakarta WMCCC Junior team were told >>>>>>by the organizers that they are not welcomed to play there under the Israeli >>>>>>flag. Exactly the opposite of what's happening here... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Another example of how the ICGA learn nothing. Jakarta was just another "clue". >>>>> If the location of the event was "The Internet", then ALL such problems would >>>>>evaporate. >>>> >>>>That's right: internet tourneys can be nice and interesting too. >>>> >>>>But imho they can never replace real life tourneys where the developers have >>>>occasion to meet and chat while playing or later in a relaxed athmosphere while >>>>having a beer or whatever. >>> >>> I haven't had a chance to participate in such a tournament, but I'm sure it >>>must be fun. But being fun is not a good reason for it to be exclusive and still >>>pretend it is "the world championship". >>> I believe that such tournaments should still happen for the enjoyment of the >>>programmers who can afford them, and then the world champs should move to an >>>inclusive direction to allow most programs to participate. >>> >>> José C. >> >>You want it to be organized forever in Paderborn? > Are you talking to me? > What are you talking about? "programmers who can afford them, and then the world champs should move to an inclusive direction to allow most programs to participate." ==> most computerchess programmers live in germany + netherlands + austria + denmark + belgium. So if you organize it in Paderborn where there is cheap hotels (unlike london where it was real expensive a night) then definitely you will get most programmers to a world championship in person. > José C. >>>>I personally appreciate a lot that ICGA and our Israelian friends are organizing >>>>this event. >>>> >>>>Uli >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>But the organization is "clueless". >>>>> >>>>>The ICGA is dead. Long live the Internet World Computer Chess Championship >>>>>(a.k.a. CCT). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> José C.
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