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Subject: Re: nice position(hardware in my posts was A1000,64 mbytes hash )nt

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:48:27 05/20/04

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On May 20, 2004 at 10:47:11, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 20, 2004 at 10:37:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2004 at 10:06:36, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>Sometimes Crafty gives me a headache.  I was sitting there, minding my own
>>>business, when all of a sudden pow!  and Crafty wins another one.  Must be
>>>something to this smp business.
>>>
>>>Anyway, on ICC Crafty runs on a 2x 2.8ghz xeon.  It found Rxg6 in about a
>>>minute, if you count my thinking time plus its thinking time (assuming it
>>>pondered correctly, which it probably did).  If I run the same position on my p4
>>>2.8ghz, it takes Crafty 4:44 to find the move.  I suppose the hash could affect
>>>things, but that's still quite a speedup.
>>>
>>>Here's the position.  Finding Rxg6 probably depends in large part on
>>>king-safety, since Amateur likes it fairly quickly (p4 2.8ghz):
>>>
>>>[d]2rq1r1k/1pp1bp2/p5pp/1n1Pp3/2B1N3/4PP2/PPQ2PRP/6RK w - -
>>>
>>>10 -28 283 1103649 Qb3 Nd6 Bd3 Nxe4
>>>11 -23 452 1839082 Qb3 Nd6 Bd3 Nxe4 fxe4 Rb8 f4 Bc5 Bc2 Qd6 f5 Rg8 fxg6 fxg6
>>>12 -14 889 3652804 Qb3 Nd6 Bd3 Bh4
>>>13 -9 1572 6584263 Qb3 Nd6 Bd3 Nxe4 fxe4 Rb8 Qc3 Qd6 Rc1 Rc8 f4 Bf6 Qc5 Qd7
>>>14 -5 4219 17715012 Qb3 Nd6 Bd3 Ra8 Nxd6 Qxd6 Qc3 Rd8 e4
>>>14 6 6427 26545535 Rxg6 fxg6 Rxg6 Rf5
>>
>>
>>Movei can find it at depth 12 and has  a significant fail high(clearly more than
>>amateur)
>>
>>10 -4 6223 12147985 c2b3 d8d7 c4e2 c8a8 a2a4 b5d6 e4c5 d7c8 f3f4 e5f4 b3c3 h8g8
>> e3f4
>>11 2 7440 14469997 c2b3 b5d6 c4d3 c8b8 b3c3 d6e4 f3e4 d8d6 g1d1 b8c8 h1g1
>>11 2 9454 18614491 c2b3 b5d6 c4d3 c8b8 b3c3 d6e4 f3e4 d8d6 g1d1 b8c8 h1g1
>>12 4 13230 25854307 c2b3 b5d6 c4d3 d6e4 f3e4 c8b8 f2f4 d8d6 g1f1 h8g8 f4f5 e7g5
>> f5g6 d6g6
>>12 5 20050 39877602 g2g6
>>12 34 22062 43841142 g2g6
>>12 70 27037 53351187 g2g6 f7g6 g1g6 b5d6 e4d6 d8d6 g6d6 c7d6 b2b3 f8f3 c2g6 f3f
>>6 g6g4
>>12 70 27636 54535862 g2g6 f7g6 g1g6 b5d6 e4d6 d8d6 g6d6 c7d6 b2b3 f8f3 c2g6 f3f
>>6 g6g4
>>13 81 34854 66663703 g2g6 f7g6 g1g6 b5d6 e4d6 d8d6 g6d6 c7d6 b2b3 f8f3 c2g6 f3f
>>6 g6g4 f6f8
>>
>>
>
>I can add that yace also agree it is tactics and shows similiar line to movei
>in the first plies
>
>not Rxg6 fxg6 Rxg6 Rf5 but Rxg6 fxg6 Rxg6 Nd6
>
>Here is analysis one ply after Rxg6(yace probably needs a long time to find Rxg6
>from the root position).
>
>New game,
>2rq1r1k/1pp1bp2/p5Rp/1n1Pp3/2B1N3/4PP2/PPQ2P1P/6RK b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Yace Paderborn:
>
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg8
>  -+  (-2.51)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Bg5 3.a4 Nd6
>  -+  (-2.32)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Bg5 3.a4 Nd6
>  -+  (-2.32)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Bg5 3.Nc5 Nd6 4.Ne6
>  -+  (-2.33)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Bg5 3.Nc5 Nd6 4.Ne6
>  -+  (-2.33)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Re6 Rf5 5.a3
>  -+  (-2.13)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  104kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Re6 Rf5 5.a3
>  -+  (-2.13)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:00  120kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 Qe8 5.Rxe5 Qh5
>  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:01  246kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 c6 5.dxc6 Rxc6
>  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:01  329kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 c6 5.dxc6 Rxc6
>  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:02  416kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 c6 5.dxc6 Rxc6 6.Rxe5
>  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:04  1004kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 c6 5.dxc6 Rxc6 6.Rxe5
>  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:04  1123kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 Qf8 5.Rxe5 Qf7 6.a4 Bd6
>  -+  (-1.68)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:10  3129kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh5 Qf8 5.Rxe5 Qf7 6.a4 Bd6
>  -+  (-1.68)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:11  3372kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Nf6 Bxf6 5.Qg6+ Kf8 6.d6 cxd6 7.Qg8+ Ke7
>8.Rh7+ Bg7 9.Rxg7+ Kf6 10.Qxd8+ Kxg7
>  µ  (-1.28)   Depth: 10/35   00:00:22  7099kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rxf3 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Nf6 Bxf6 5.Qg6+ Kf8 6.d6 cxd6 7.Qg8+ Ke7
>8.Rh7+ Bg7 9.Rxg7+ Kf6 10.Qxd8+ Kxg7
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 10/35   00:00:33  11332kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rf5 3.Ng5 Qf8 4.Ne6 Qf7 5.Rg7 Qh5 6.Rxe7 Qxf3+ 7.Kg1
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 10/40   00:01:04  23473kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rf5 3.Ng5 Qf8 4.Ne6 Qf7 5.Rg7 Qh5 6.Rxe7 Qxf3+ 7.Kg1
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 10/40   00:01:12  26461kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rf5 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh3 Qd7 5.Ng3 Nd6 6.Nxf5+ Nxf5 7.Qe4 Kf6 8.Rh7
>  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 11/40   00:01:52  41304kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rf5 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Rh3 Qd7 5.Ng3 Nd6 6.Nxf5+ Nxf5 7.Qe4 Kf6 8.Rh7
>  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 11/40   00:01:57  42672kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Rf5 3.Rxh6+ Kg7 4.Ng3 Kxh6 5.Nxf5+ Kg5 6.f4+ exf4 7.Qe4 Bf6
>8.exf4+ Kg6 9.Ne7+ Kf7 10.Qe6+ Ke8 11.Nxc8+ Qe7
>  =  (0.08)   Depth: 12/45   00:05:09  115352kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Nd6 3.Nxd6 Qxd6 4.Rxd6 cxd6 5.Qe4 b5 6.Bd3
>  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 12/46   00:09:32  209310kN
>1...fxg6 2.Rxg6 Nd6 3.Nxd6 Qxd6 4.Rxd6 cxd6 5.Qe4 b5 6.Bd3
>  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 12/46   00:09:45  213238kN
>
>(Blass, Tel-Aviv 20.05.2004)
>
>>Uri





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