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Subject: Re: depthfirst versus depthlimited

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:51:36 05/20/04

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On May 20, 2004 at 10:19:39, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

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>>generate all ply-3 moves.
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>>That is a _huge_ difference from depth-first.
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>>You _really_ look like an idiot here...
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>  First, he was looking good. Then he was lookin' better. Finally he was lookin'
>_real_ good. No it has come to be that he is looking like an idiot here...
>What's next?

Lots of choices..

jackass

dumbass

moron

fool

idiot

nut-case

I get tired of typing before I run out of options...  but...

Anybody that tries to re-define well-known AI terms to suit his own agenda is a
_real_ nut-case...

You do realize that he has been caught in multiple outright lies here?   He said
he could not get access to my Ph.D. dissertation.  Then after several of us
explain "university microfilm" to him he claims to have ordered a copy that will
take 6 weeks to arrive.  The very next day he is quoting from my dissertation.
He already had it.

The he takes the title "A High-Performance Parallel Algorithm to Search
Depth-First Game Trees" and now tries to claim that searching "depth-first" game
trees is worthless as that is an algorithm _nobody_ would show up at a
tournament using.

Some history:

1.  my speedup formula speedup = 1 + (NCPUS - 1) * .7 was posted in many
articles here and on usenet news.  Vincent claimed that he had "proofed" that it
was wrong.  I posted a bunch of opteron data and Martin did the analysis to show
it was pretty accurate with the formula.  Vincent said "nobody else can produce
data showing the same speedup."  He was right.  Someone posted dual G5 data that
was _better_ than my speedup on the opteron.  Then he started "if Bob would take
that stupid tree pointer out of the single-cpu version it would be 10% faster.
He is not comparing the best single-cpu algorithm to the N-cpu algorithm.  I
pointed out that when I originally added the pointer it slowed me down by about
3%.  Notice the attempts to discredit that which he can't beat.  Repeatedly.

2.  He claimed I wrote a JICCA article that claimed my speedup formula worked
for any number of CPUs.  Rolf quoted an old CCC post of mine where I _clearly_
limited it to 4 as that was all I had tested it on at the time.  I personally
later amended it to include 8 as by then I had 8cpu data.  He could not give a
citation for that JICCA article as there was no such article.  The only parallel
search article I have written in the JICCA was about Cray Blitz.  I wrote one on
"EPVS" years ago, then the DTS article in 1997 or so.  Another false claim.

3.  He wants to claim that depth-first search is not used in computer chess
engines when _everybody_ uses it.  He tries to re-define the term, in direct
contradiction of every author that has published a book or paper describing
alpha/beta minimax search.  He tries this to attempt to claim that my
dissertation used a search technique that was more favorable for parallel search
but useless in real games.  Even though the program used in my dissertation was
none other than Cray Blitz, the program that has won _exactly_ two more world
computer chess championship tournaments than his program has won.

4.  He wants to discredit my DTS article because he doesn't like the speedup
results when looking at his results.  He wants to discredit my dissertation for
the same reason.  He wants to discredit crafty's parallel search and overall
chess playing skill for the same reason.  If he can't out-perform me, then he
tries to discredit me.

5.  Crafty has finished in first or tied for first in 3 of the 6 CCT events we
have held.  He has played in some of them.  But he prefers to try to discredit
CCT as an "amateur engine event" since he can't seem to win one himself.  There
is a pattern here if you can pick it out. :)

I show up at events, and win lose or draw, I accept the result and keep working.
 He tries to discredit the results and keep whining and making excuses as for
why he can't do better.

And he ends up looking like a complete fool each and every time.  Over and over.
 But like that energizer bunny, he keeps on repeating the same mistake over and
over and over and over and .....



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>>>But it definitely is depth limited.
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>>>>--
>>>>James



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