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Subject: Re: king attack position movei-frenzee

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 19:13:28 05/20/04

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On May 20, 2004 at 10:56:35, Uri Blass wrote:

>[D]r1q3k1/pp3r2/2p2ppB/4pb1P/2Q5/6R1/PP3PP1/R5K1 b - - 0 23
>
>Frenzee played g5 when white get a big advantage(probably decisive advantage and
>yace could learn a big score for white from the game)
>
>Does black has something better?

according to CM9_OffSet, black does not have something better

all moves looked at seem to fail... b5, g5, Qe6

P3/850

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-0.86	1238		1...b5 2.Qb3 g5 3.Rd1
0:00	1/3	-0.94	1679		1...g5 2.Rd1 Qe6
0:00	1/4	-0.90	4670		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Be6 5.Qc5+ Re7 6.Rxe5
0:00	1/4	-0.92	5478		1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.hxg6 Rd7
0:00	1/4	-1.05	6574		1...b5 2.Qb3 g5 3.Rd1 Qe6
0:00	1/5	-0.96	11776		1...b5 2.Qb3 g5 3.Rd1 Qe6 4.Qa3
0:00	1/5	-1.01	15752		1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.Rxg6+ Kh7
					4.Be3 Bf5
0:00	1/5	-1.18	21092		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Bxg4 5.Rxg4 Qf5
0:00	1/6	-1.21	40555		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Be6 5.Qc5+ Re7 6.Rxe5 Qd7
0:01	1/7	-1.07	108760		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Bxg4 5.Rxg4 Qxg4+ 6.Qxg4 Rg7
					7.f3 Rxg4+ 8.fxg4
0:03	1/8	-1.50	346547		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Bxg4 5.Rxg4 Qxg4+ 6.Qxg4 Rg7
					7.f3 Rxg4+ 8.fxg4 Kg7
0:06	1/9	-1.22	709604		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Bxg4 5.Rxg4 Qxg4+ 6.Qxg4 Rg7
					7.f3 Kg8 8.Re1 Rxg4+ 9.fxg4
0:15	1/10	-1.29	1767829		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.g4 Bxg4 5.Rxg4 Qxg4+ 6.Qxg4 Rg7
					7.f3 Kg8 8.Re1 Rxg4+ 9.fxg4 Re8
0:36	1/11	-0.93	4204266		1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.Qc5+ Re7 5.Re1 b6 6.Qb4 Qd7 7.Rxe5
					Be6 8.Qa4 c5
1:38	1/12	-1.16	11212616	1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.Qc5+ Re7 5.Re1 b6 6.Qb4 Qd7 7.Rxe5
					Be6 8.Qa4 c5 9.Qf4+ Rf7
3:24	1/13	-0.87	23794825	1...g5 2.Bxg5 fxg5 3.Rxg5+ Kf8
					4.Qc5+ Re7 5.Re1 b6 6.Qa3 Qd7 7.Rxe5
					Be6 8.Rg6 Qd1+ 9.Kh2 Kf7 10.Qg3
					Bxa2
5:08	1/13	-1.03	37166061	1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.hxg6 Rd7
					4.Rf3 f5 5.Re1 e4 6.Ra3 c5 7.f3
					Bd5 8.Kf2
8:25	2/14	-0.98	62844913	1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.hxg6 Rd7
					4.Rf3 f5 5.Re1 e4 6.Ra3 c5 7.g3
					Bc4 8.Rc1 b5
19:33	3/15	-1.07	146414511	1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.hxg6 Rd7
					4.Rf3 f5 5.Re3 e4 6.Bf4 Rad8 7.b3
					Rd1+ 8.Re1 R1d3 9.f3 Kg7
50:15	4/16	-0.98	392162985	1...Qe6 2.Qxe6 Bxe6 3.hxg6 Rd7
					4.Rf3 f5 5.Re3 e4 6.Bf4 Rad8 7.Bg5
					Rf8 8.Bh6 Re8 9.Ra3 b6 10.Rc1
Dan

>b5 is an alternative that movei prefers but I am not sure if it can save black
>from a loss(yace could see only a draw after it but maybe I did not give it
>enough time).
>
>
>[Event "WBEC7 2nd Division"]
>[Site "ATHLON-MP2200"]
>[Date "2004.05.18"]
>[Round "15.3"]
>[White "Movei 0.08.178d"]
>[Black "Frenzee 146"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[PlyCount "69"]
>[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
>
>1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. Nf3 Bd7 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bd3 Bd6 6. e4 dxe4 7. Nxe4 Nxe4 8.
>Bxe4 Nc6 9. O-O O-O 10. Re1 Qc8 11. Ne5 Bxe5 12. dxe5 Nxe5 13. Bxh7+ Kxh7 14.
>Rxe5 Kg8 15. Rg5 f6 16. Rg3 e5 17. Qf3 Bf5 18. Be3 Bxc2 19. Bh6 Rf7 20. Qd5 g6
>21. h4 c6 22. Qc4 Bf5 23. h5 g5 24. Bxg5 fxg5 25. Rxg5+ Kf8 26. Qc5+ Re7 27.
>Re1 Qd7 28. Rxe5 Be6 29. Qc3 Rh7 30. Rg6 Qd1+ 31. Re1 Qxh5 32. Qf6+ Rf7 33.
>Qxe6 Rd8 34. Rh6 Qg5 35. Re3 {Frenzee resigns} 1-0
>
>Uri



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