Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:28:31 05/21/04
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On May 21, 2004 at 13:44:19, Matthew Hull wrote: >On May 21, 2004 at 12:57:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 21, 2004 at 12:38:01, Matthew Hull wrote: >> >>>On May 21, 2004 at 12:24:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 21, 2004 at 12:22:36, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>they are frauded search times. >>> >>> >>>But your reason for claiming fraud is that DIEP does not duplicate the >numbers. >> >>>Since DIEP uses a different parrallel algorithim than the program described >in >>the paper, your alleged proof of fraud is unfounded. The only way it >could be >>is if DIEP is based upon the parallel/split strategy described in >the paper. >>But everyone knows that it's not. >>> >>>Therefore, your claim is extremely unconvincing. >>> >> >> >>You are _totally_ missing his point. His reason for claiming "fraud" is that >he >can't produce decent speedup numbers for his own program. His "sponsors" >>aparently knew about the Cray Blitz numbers, and when his effort "flopped" he >>had to do _something_ to avoid looking foolish. He told me _exactly_ that in >a >private email before this all "broke loose".. It isn't about intellectual >>honesty. It is about _fraud_. His fraud and his dishonesty. > > > >Yes, his agenda is pretty clear. One cannot help but be mystified as to how >postings (accusations) in this forum make their way to his "sponsors". How >does a private citizen acquire patrons who can be so easily flim-flammed? >Is that how he pays the rent? > > >I believe you posted that he and GCP use "heavy processes" instead of >"threads", and that as such, the speed potential is somewhat less. > > >I had thought the 2003 machine VD had was a kind of NUMA, and that it took a >long time to get all the processors busy. Would that have had anything to do >with the process vs thread decision? Who knows. I use threads on SMP. On NUMA. There is no significant reason not to. And since Eugene's EGTB code is specifically designed for threads as well, the gain by having a large shared LRU cache of table data is also worthwhile. But forget arguing that point to Vincent. "Crafty can't work at NUMA". Then when I post pretty good 4 CPU NUMA numbers "Crafty can't work at 8CPU or more NUMA". When I tell him I have 8 cpu data. "Crafty can't work at 16cpu or more NUMA". It is a _moving_ target. What I can't prove I can do, I can't do. Once I prove something, we go one level more complex and he makes the same dishonest claim again, there... > > > >> >>But, of course, if you just read my frequent responses to his posts, you'll >get >the point. He has made _plenty_ of accusations. I have challenged each >and >every one with facts _anyone_ can verify. And he runs and hides. But for >this >one case, he _knows_ that all the original data was lost years ago, so he >knows >that he has a chance of keeping this "alive" since I will never be able >to >recover that data. And so for 99% of his claims, I've shot him down each >and >every time, so that he looks (by now) to be a complete fool. But for this >one >case, all I can do is explain how and why the numbers look as they do, and >>that's all. So there is a "crack" in the door and he keeps trying to squeeze >>through. >> >>Now he apparently has my dissertation, even though he claimed he could not get >>it for 6 weeks. And he doesn't like the results there either. But he can't >>discredit them in the same way. So now we are off in the "depth - first >search >is not what anybody uses at a tournament." angle even though that is so >utterly >stupid it is hard to believe anyone would make such a statement. But >it is a >part of his "discredit at all costs" agenda. >> >>Notice that when I post something he always says "send me the logs". I >usually >do, or as I did for the last set of data, I just put 'em on my ftp >server for >_everyone_ to see. Have you _ever_ seen him post "Hmmm... Your >logs show that >your 4 cpu speedup really was 3.2X..." Not a chance. Have you >ever seen _him_ >post any logs here showing _anything_ about his speedup? Who >do you suppose >_really_ has something to hide? I release my source. I >release my logs. I >release my test sets. What does Vincent release? Lots of >bullshit. Nothing >more. Nothing less. Always the same. >> >>Lies and more lies, backed up by lies. Never a retraction when caught >>red-handed. Just more lies, until he gets into a corner, and runs and hides >>until the next time...
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