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Subject: Re: Excel calculations DTS

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:31:21 05/21/04

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On May 21, 2004 at 12:50:06, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 20, 2004 at 22:40:05, enrico carrisco wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2004 at 22:24:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2004 at 12:18:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2004 at 10:29:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 14:07:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 13:52:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 13:25:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 12:34:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 11:44:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, you can't afford to leave USA 1 day, but you can afford $15k+ machines
>>>>>>>>>always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't own a single 15K machine, period.  I own one sony laptop, one gateway PC
>>>>>>>>in my home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And you talk about "selective math".  In your case it is "non-math" as every
>>>>>>>>number you puke up is utter nonsense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you deny that you wrote speedup = 8.81 in your thesis
>>>>>>>and that you wrote in your DTS article speedup = 11.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please quote where I denied that.  I didn't deny _either_ result...
>>>>>
>>>>>8.81 != 11.1
>>>>>
>>>>>and your 11.1 results are based upon data which can be proven as a big fraud.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>First, 8.81 came from BK at 5 plies.  11.1 came from a set of game positions at
>>>>10 plies.  8.81 carried nothing from position to position.  11.1 carried
>>>
>>>Your 11.1 comes from nowhere. You invented it yourself. Based upon self invented
>>>speedup numbers you calculated then search time. This is trivial to proof and
>>>has been proven in 2002 august.
>>
>>Okay.  If it is so trivial -- please "re-prove" it.  I missed this August 2002
>>discussion of proof.  I would, however, be interested in seeing the proof
>>(rather than more threads of rants, raves, and name calling...)
>>
>>-elc.
>>
>><snipped>
>
>In the official journal of ICCA 1997 this is the search times presented for
>
>pos     1 cpu  2 cpu    4 cpu   8 cpu  16 cpu
>
>1	2830	1415	832	435	311
>2	2849	1424	791	438	274
>3	3274	1637	884	467	239
>4	2308	1154	591	349	208
>5	1584	792	440	243	178
>6	4294	2147	1160	670	452
>7	1888	993	524	273	187
>8	7275	3637	1966	1039	680
>9	3940	1970	1094	635	398
>10	2431	1215	639	333	187
>11	3062	1531	827	425	247
>12	2518	1325	662	364	219
>13	2131	1121	560	313	192
>14	1871	935	534	296	191
>15	2648	1324	715	378	243
>16	2347	1235	601	321	182
>17	4884	2872	1878	1085	814
>18	646	358	222	124	84
>19	2983	1491	785	426	226
>20	7473	3736	1916	1083	530
>21	3626	1813	906	489	237
>22	2560	1347	691	412	264
>23	2039	1019	536	323	206
>24	2563	1281	657	337	178
>
>Now if i let excel calculate the speedup numbers based upon this and i let excel
>calculate the speedups based upon the search times
>
>2 procs         4 processors    8 processors    16 processors
>2,000000	3,401442	6,505747	9,099678
>2,000702	3,601770	6,504566	10,397810
>2,000000	3,703620	7,010707	13,698745
>2,000000	3,905245	6,613181	11,096154
>2,000000	3,600000	6,518519	8,898876
>2,000000	3,701724	6,408955	9,500000
>1,901309	3,603053	6,915751	10,096257
>2,000275	3,700407	7,001925	10,698529
>2,000000	3,601463	6,204724	9,899497
>2,000823	3,804382	7,300300	13,000000
>2,000000	3,702539	7,204706	12,396761
>1,900377	3,803625	6,917582	11,497717
>1,900981	3,805357	6,808307	11,098958
>2,001070	3,503745	6,320946	9,795812
>2,000000	3,703497	7,005291	10,897119
>1,900405	3,905158	7,311526	12,895604
>1,700557	2,600639	4,501382	6,000000
>1,804469	2,909910	5,209677	7,690476
>2,000671	3,800000	7,002347	13,199115
>2,000268	3,900313	6,900277	14,100000
>2,000000	4,002208	7,415133	15,299578
>1,900520	3,704776	6,213592	9,696970
>2,000981	3,804104	6,312693	9,898058
>2,000781	3,901065	7,605341	14,398876
>
>You will realize that these speedup numbers are frauded. Rounded off errors they
>are not, that's for sure.


Or you can realize that the speedup numbers are "as advertised" and the times
are computed from the speedup numbers since the original time data was all lost.

The only fraud here is you.

Where is that JICCA article?  Where is that CCC post?  Where is your speedup
proof about my program?  Where is your proof removing the TREE pointer speeds me
up 10%?  Where is _any_ proof of anything?

lies, repeated, do _not_ make a truth...

You, are a liar...



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