Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:12:37 05/22/04
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On May 23, 2004 at 00:02:01, Mike Byrne wrote:
>On May 22, 2004 at 23:31:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>From ICC this evening:
>>
>>DIEP(C DM)(64): well i guessed *that* right ;)
>>DIEP(C DM)(64): i see typing over by hand shredder lines
>>DIEP(C DM)(64): from shredder book to crafty bookc.bin has brought bob some
>>points
>>
>>I have never seen a bigger load of crap in my life. I have no copy of Shredder.
>> I don't copy _any_ book. I use the _same_ book I have been using for a couple
>>of years.
>>
>>But _some_ folks like to make excuses. He wasn't happy that Crafty has a 2750
>>ICC standard rating. And has to absolutely make up lies to explain it away.
>>
>>It is _hard_ to believe just how low he can go...
>>
>>Of course, he can feel free to try to prove it. Anybody that has downloaded my
>>book.bin from the last year can verify that whatever he offers as evidence is
>>just nonsense...
>
>When everythings fails - blame the "killer" book. Bob. I have used the same
>book.bin for the last 3 years and I never ever attempted to tune it. It always
>amazes me when a program loses to Crafty on my machine - the first counter point
>words about why the results are distorted and program A played poorly.
>
>"Program "A" does not play well at that time control." It is usally a 40/xx or
>some time control with increment. I hear it all the time. Bad time management
>is part part of the program - just like any other bugs that may pop up (can we
>say 3 fold repetition).
>
>Second most common "blame game" phrase - "Program A's book is not tuned" --
>well, neither is Crafty when it runs on my machine. But book tuning has been
>around for years and for better or worse - it is part of the chess program.
>
>Both of these statements are "victim" statements - they are blaming others for
>things that they can control about their programs. If your program does not
>play well at xx/yy tc - fix it. If you have a crummy book - fix it.
>
>I do happen to think (btw) Shredder ( in tournament mode using Shreddder Classic
>GUI ) is well suited for the engine. Hiarcs tournament book is also very good.
> The Lokasoft books that come with Tiger and Rebel are also very high quality
>for computer play. The standard Fritz GUI book that comes with many of the
>Chessbase engines (Tiger etc) is not as high quality for computer matches ( fine
>for human play).
I found this in the log as well (Vincent was trying to find a non-shredder
program to play standard. Crafty was on but already playing someone...
OldPhoenix(64): Blech, you can match my avatar all you like, but it's too low
rated to help you :)
DIEP(C DM)(64): nah crafty is a sure win
I'd like to encourage this pathological liar to pop on over to ICC _any_ time
and prove to me that "Crafty is a sure win when he plays it." I have never read
so much crap by one person in all my internet days, I don't believe.
His history on ICC is most impressive while making such statements:
Recent games of DIEP:
Opponent Type ECO End Date
72: + 2519 W 2513 Amateur [ sr 45 10] D17 Res May 22 04 22:03
71: + 2502 W 2366 thebaron [ sr 15 15] C15 Res Dec 22 03 01:51
70: + 2491 W 2233 witchess [ su 15 15] A27 Mat May 22 04 19:32
69: - 2491 B 2233 witchess [ su 15 15] B23 Mat May 22 04 18:41
68: - 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D21 Mat May 22 04 18:32
67: - 2667 B 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] A45 Mat May 22 04 18:28
66: - 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D21 Mat May 22 04 18:23
65: - 2667 B 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D00 Mat May 22 04 18:19
64: + 2667 B 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] A45 Fla May 22 04 18:01
63: + 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] A09 Fla May 22 04 17:56
62: + 2667 B 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D00 Mat May 22 04 17:52
61: + 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] A27 Fla May 22 04 17:47
60: + 2667 B 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D00 Mat May 22 04 17:43
59: + 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] D20 Mat May 22 04 17:39
58: a 2667 W 2200 witchess [ Bu 2 0] B01 Agr May 22 04 17:25
57: + 2873 W ++++ guest7272 [ bu 4 16] A51 Res May 14 04 13:36
56: a 2873 W 2792 Data [ bu 5 5] A00 Agr May 13 04 21:44
55: a 2873 W 2736 Turzo [ bu 3 2] A80 Agr May 03 04 19:08
54: - 2491 B 2383 bodo [ sr 30 30] A15 Mat May 03 04 15:23
53: a 2514 B 2360 bodo [ sr 30 30] A04 BQ May 03 04 15:19
Looks like "witchess" had its way with him. no idea why he'd want to walk in
Front of Crafty after taking a beating like that...
You'd think he would be embarassed by all of this... But I believe he lacks the
"sense" necessary to realize how incredibly bad he looks...
All this is kind of funny when he used to _openly_ brag about hijacking
commercial opening books. And he once again wants me to publish the very small
start.pgn Bert Gower and I prepared for the last CCT, even though he will
_never_ publish any of his stuff. :)
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