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Subject: Re: which parts should I buy in order to build a new dual opteron?

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 02:49:29 05/23/04

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On May 22, 2004 at 23:38:16, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On May 22, 2004 at 13:09:12, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>
>>On May 22, 2004 at 12:12:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>I tried to ask it in another forum but did not get reply that I am satisfied
>>>with it until now.
>>>
>>>see http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98875
>>>
>>>I want to get the following lists as a start:
>>>
>>>1)List of parts that are relevant for the speed of the hardware.
>>>2)List of parts that are needed but are not important for the speed.
>>>
>>>I see that there are a lot of irrelevant details for me
>>>When I try to look at pages like
>>>http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/step/1/
>>>
>>>
>>>Example:
>>>
>>>I do not care about things like
>>>Sound Card
>>>
>>>They say about it:
>>>"An absolute necessity in today's PC world"
>>>
>>>I do not see how sound card may improve the performance of chess programs so I
>>>do not see why it is absolute necessity.
>>>
>>>I may buy things that are not necessary only if they are a small part of the
>>>total price of the PC.
>>>
>>>they say:
>>>
>>>"Read the reviews, as there are a lot of sound cards out there with special
>>>features"
>>>
>>>I think that I am not going to read reviews about it and if I buy something I
>>>prefer to buy the cheapest thing that let me hear if the computer move(this is
>>>the only advantage that I can see for computer chess).
>>>
>>>I do not like to be wrong about parts that are necessary so I do not want to
>>>guess things about it.
>>>
>>>I hope that you can do better job in giving me advice relative to the job that
>>>people did so far in the second forum that I tried when I got only a single
>>>reply that told me that speed is not important for chess.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Building a dedicated chess computer is real easy. Get the fastest processor
>>(Amd64 3400+),
>
>I don't think the price gap between 3200+ and 3400+ justifies the performance
>difference. Going from 3200+ to 3400+ you don't get more improvement than when
>going from 3000+ to 3200+, but the price difference in the former case is much
>higher.

I did some calculations a month or so ago. For Rybka, the best Euro/node/second
solution was an Amd64 2800+ system, with the 3200+ close behind. (The 3000+ has
512 MB L2, so for a rotated bitboard program I don't think it would do so well -
but I haven't tested this.)

While it makes sense to think like this when building a pure testing system, for
personal use (or tournaments) I think most people are ready to pay 25% more to
get a 10% speedup.

Vas

>
>
>>1 Gig of the fastest memory (400 MHz), and for everything else
>>just flip a coin.
>>
>>Vas



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