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Subject: Re: Is Crafty not in the WCCC2004?

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:13:55 05/23/04

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On May 23, 2004 at 08:23:04, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On May 23, 2004 at 07:58:44, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>On May 23, 2004 at 05:03:35, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 23, 2004 at 03:44:58, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 23, 2004 at 03:25:11, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 23, 2004 at 01:52:24, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 22, 2004 at 23:11:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 22, 2004 at 22:33:58, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, i just took a look at the WCCC2004 page and to my surprise Crafty is not in
>>>>>>>>it,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is the page just not being updated properly?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it is just slow and delayed I have a few questions for Bob,
>>>>>>>>what Crafty version is going to be used and on what hardware?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Most recent version, always.  Hardware is unknown.  I am trying for a 4-way or
>>>>>>>8-way 2.4ghz opteron as a worst-case, maybe something even better.  But it is
>>>>>>>late to really look for good hardware.  Whether it will work out or not is
>>>>>>>unknown...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In some previous posts you were talking about 'perhaps' increasing Crafty's
>>>>>>>>strength and you might be making leaps and bounds with its performance (your
>>>>>>>>also waiting for a new box to come in i 'believe')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes...  we are going to work on a cluster-crafty this summer.  Got a Ph.D.
>>>>>>>student interested so we are going to jump in starting in June...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I use crafty 19.12 on chessanytime.com and it kicks a lot of ass,
>>>>>>>>just wondering what the author is doing with WCCC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm trying to get it set up.  It is "iffy"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Assuming all goes the way you want, and you get the hardware you want for the
>>>>>>WCCC2004, how do you feel that you fair against the competition, now i know you
>>>>>>aren't sure if or which type of hardware box/cluster you are getting, but
>>>>>>assuming you get something juicy, how do you feel crafty 19.13 fairs with that
>>>>>>hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that Crafty 19.13 has the same chances as any of the top 4 program
>>>>>from the SSDF, it is a matter of LUCK in such a short tourney :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>Well, luck is important in short tournaments, but not the only thing...explain
>>>>why from 1996 only Junior and Shredder won WCCC tournaments and not other chess
>>>>programs.
>>>>
>>>>There is a reason for everything...
>>>>
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>
>>>You must also respect the final decisions of the TD Jaap vd H who can always
>>>change the chess rules at will. This and also opponents who throw a drawn game.
>>>So yes, that makes it understandable why certain things do happen...
>>
>>
>>Yes, it is extremely important not to let program bugs get in the way of the
>>correct result  ;-)
>>
>>Frank
>
>What I like in this forum is that several people have a great fantasy; they
>always come out with something new!:-))
>
>I mean they are not repetitive at all!:-))
>
>Most importantly the deeply analyze things and give detailed explanations!
>
>Wow!




Sandro,
you are a great expert; you make a good book, but why don't you feel at least a
little bit ashamed that SHREDDER got half a point only because its opponent gave
up a dead drawn game??? Are you, as an expert, really happy with such unsportive
and unfair actions? From a programmer of a 7 times winner I would expect that he
would refuse to accept such presents. Would that have been really a disaster?
Now the 8th title has the haut gout of a cheat. Sandro, I know that you know
this. Why don't you tell this SMK instead of criticising those who say just the
truth???
>
>Sandro



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