Author: Slater Wold
Date: 11:10:38 05/24/04
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On May 24, 2004 at 12:56:56, Slater Wold wrote: >On May 24, 2004 at 12:29:04, Russell Reagan wrote: > >>On May 24, 2004 at 12:06:46, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>In a thread below, there is a post about Blargh, ICCs top computer. It has won >>>60% of its games at standard time controls, and only lost 16% in almost 3,000 >>>games! >>> >>>I am interested to know the OoO (opinion of outcome) of EVERYONE at the >>>following experiment, I will be in contact with the operator of Blargh, and will >>>try to set this up. >>> >>>Crafty 19.13 on an AMD FX53 (64-bit) vs Shredder 8 on a Dual Opteron 2.2Ghz >>>(32-bit) >>> >>>10 game match. 120/0. >>> >>>Opinions? >> >>Crafty on equal hardware probably doesn't stand a realistic chance against >>Shredder. Only Fritz scores at least 45% against Shredder on the latest SSDF. >>Junior and Hiarcs score at least 40%. Crafty would be behind those engines on >>equal hardware by a non-trivial margin (take the Junior-Crafty 10x experiment >>for example). > >OoO please... > >>What is interesting about a Shredder-Crafty match where Crafty is at a hardware >>_disadvantage_? >> >>BTW, that really explains a lot about why he is #1 on ICC. You have a freakin' >>FX53 and you're at a hardware disadvantage! Wow... > >It's a disadvantage, but a small one. How small? > >Crafty on a 2.2Ghz Opteron in 32-bit gets about 1.5M NPS. With a 1.89 speedup, >we get 2.8M nps. My FX53 (64-bit) will do 2.6M. It's at a 8% HW disadvantage. > >8% means nothing in a 120/0 game. Shredder 8 is SMP. This box is NUMA. I bet it doesn't get 1.89x. I would venture to say, it's pretty damn even, on the HW side.
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