Author: Slater Wold
Date: 11:12:10 05/24/04
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On May 24, 2004 at 14:09:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 24, 2004 at 12:56:56, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On May 24, 2004 at 12:29:04, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2004 at 12:06:46, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>In a thread below, there is a post about Blargh, ICCs top computer. It has won >>>>60% of its games at standard time controls, and only lost 16% in almost 3,000 >>>>games! >>>> >>>>I am interested to know the OoO (opinion of outcome) of EVERYONE at the >>>>following experiment, I will be in contact with the operator of Blargh, and will >>>>try to set this up. >>>> >>>>Crafty 19.13 on an AMD FX53 (64-bit) vs Shredder 8 on a Dual Opteron 2.2Ghz >>>>(32-bit) >>>> >>>>10 game match. 120/0. >>>> >>>>Opinions? >>> >>>Crafty on equal hardware probably doesn't stand a realistic chance against >>>Shredder. Only Fritz scores at least 45% against Shredder on the latest SSDF. >>>Junior and Hiarcs score at least 40%. Crafty would be behind those engines on >>>equal hardware by a non-trivial margin (take the Junior-Crafty 10x experiment >>>for example). >> >>OoO please... >> >>>What is interesting about a Shredder-Crafty match where Crafty is at a hardware >>>_disadvantage_? >>> >>>BTW, that really explains a lot about why he is #1 on ICC. You have a freakin' >>>FX53 and you're at a hardware disadvantage! Wow... >> >>It's a disadvantage, but a small one. How small? > >It is at least 2x disadvantage. > >You did notice that box is a _dual_??? Dual. And 32-bit. >Shredder has an SMP version which I would assume he is using... > >>Crafty on a 2.2Ghz Opteron in 32-bit gets about 1.5M NPS. With a 1.89 speedup, >>we get 2.8M nps. My FX53 (64-bit) will do 2.6M. It's at a 8% HW disadvantage. >> >>8% means nothing in a 120/0 game. > >Where are those numbers coming from? > > >Crafty on a 2.2ghz opteron gets >2M on linux with GCC. With windows it is >closer to 2.3M on a single opteron CPU... My 2.4Ghz FX doesn't get 2.3M 32-bit. Where are you getting these numbers?
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