Author: Slater Wold
Date: 11:37:06 05/24/04
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On May 24, 2004 at 14:32:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 24, 2004 at 14:09:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 24, 2004 at 12:56:56, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2004 at 12:29:04, Russell Reagan wrote: >>> >>>>On May 24, 2004 at 12:06:46, Slater Wold wrote: >>>> >>>>>In a thread below, there is a post about Blargh, ICCs top computer. It has won >>>>>60% of its games at standard time controls, and only lost 16% in almost 3,000 >>>>>games! >>>>> >>>>>I am interested to know the OoO (opinion of outcome) of EVERYONE at the >>>>>following experiment, I will be in contact with the operator of Blargh, and will >>>>>try to set this up. >>>>> >>>>>Crafty 19.13 on an AMD FX53 (64-bit) vs Shredder 8 on a Dual Opteron 2.2Ghz >>>>>(32-bit) >>>>> >>>>>10 game match. 120/0. >>>>> >>>>>Opinions? >>>> >>>>Crafty on equal hardware probably doesn't stand a realistic chance against >>>>Shredder. Only Fritz scores at least 45% against Shredder on the latest SSDF. >>>>Junior and Hiarcs score at least 40%. Crafty would be behind those engines on >>>>equal hardware by a non-trivial margin (take the Junior-Crafty 10x experiment >>>>for example). >>> >>>OoO please... >>> >>>>What is interesting about a Shredder-Crafty match where Crafty is at a hardware >>>>_disadvantage_? >>>> >>>>BTW, that really explains a lot about why he is #1 on ICC. You have a freakin' >>>>FX53 and you're at a hardware disadvantage! Wow... >>> >>>It's a disadvantage, but a small one. How small? >> >>It is at least 2x disadvantage. >> >>You did notice that box is a _dual_??? >> >>Shredder has an SMP version which I would assume he is using... > >Comeon you need to be NUMA to run well on a dual opteron in 32 bits. Shredder is >SMP and has not released a 64 bits executable yet for xp64. A point not everyone is getting, obviously... >Equal hardware SSDF shredder8-crafty : 43.5 - 3.5 I was going to look that up later, thanks! So we can expect in a 10 game match, nothing better than 9 - 1 from Crafty, based on SSDF results. Interesting...
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