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Subject: Re: Opinions? A Crafty experiment...

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 20:53:17 05/24/04

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On May 24, 2004 at 19:47:27, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On May 24, 2004 at 16:44:50, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2004 at 16:36:07, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2004 at 16:32:17, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 24, 2004 at 16:21:24, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 24, 2004 at 16:01:53, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 24, 2004 at 15:36:53, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DIEP played two standard games against crafty yesterday on ICC with
>>Vincent >>>>>>himself presiding (and pontificating).  DIEP lost them both.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, sir. Incredible, you were not interested in the games but you read all
>>>>the >>>Vincent's messages....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Interesting.... Could you comment what it really happened in such games in
>>>>>>>detail?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know the answer: No. :))))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "ICS Rated Standard match"]
>>>>>>[Site "ICC"]
>>>>>>[Date "2004.05.24"]
>>>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>>>[White "DIEP"]
>>>>>>[Black "crafty"]
>>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>>[WhiteElo "2540"]
>>>>>>[BlackElo "2740"]
>>>>>>[TimeControl "3600+30"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 e6 4. O-O Be7 5. c4 O-O 6. b3 c5 7. e3 Nc6 8.
>>>>>>Bb2 b6 9. Nc3 Bb7 10. cxd5 Nxd5 11. Nxd5 Qxd5 12. d4 Rad8 13. Ne5 Qd6 14.
>>>>>>Nxc6 Bxc6 15. Qg4 cxd4 16. Bxd4 g6 17. Bxc6 Qxc6 18. Rac1 Qb7 19. Qf4 Rd6
>>>>>>20. Bb2 Rfd8 21. h4 Qa6 22. a4 Qe2 23. Bd4 f6 24. Rfe1 Qa2 25. Rc7 e5 26.
>>>>>>Qe4 R6d7 27. Rxd7 Rxd7 28. Qc6 Rd8 29. Qe6+ Kf8 30. Bc3 Qc2 31. Qc4 a6 32.
>>>>>>Re2 Qd3 33. Rd2 Qxc4 34. Rxd8+ Bxd8 35. bxc4 Ke7 36. e4 h5 37. Kf1 Kd6 38.
>>>>>>Ke2 Kc5 39. Kd3 Bc7 40. f3 f5 41. Bd2 fxe4+ 42. fxe4 Bd6 43. Bc3 Bc7 44.
>>>>>>Be1 Bd8 45. Bd2 Kc6 46. Bc3 Bc7 47. Kc2 Kd7 48. Kd2 Bd6 49. a5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>49. a5?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unforced blunder, wouldn't you say?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>49. ...  bxa5 50.
>>>>>>Bxa5 Bc5 51. Ke2 Bd4 52. Kf3 Kc6 53. Bb4 Bb6 54. Bc3 Bc7 55. Ke3 a5 56. Kd3
>>>>>>a4 57. Bb2 Bd6 58. Kc2 Kd7 59. c5 Bxc5 60. Bxe5 Ke6 61. Bf4 Bd4 62. Kc1 Ke7
>>>>>>63. Kc2 Ke6 64. Kc1 Kd7 65. Kb1 Kc6 66. Ka2 Bg7 67. Ka3 Kc5 68. Kxa4 Kd4
>>>>>>69. Bg5 Kxe4 70. Kb3 Be5 71. Kc2 Bxg3 72. Kd1 Kf3 73. Bf6 Kg4 74. Ke2 Bxh4
>>>>>>75. Bd4 Kh3 76. Kf1 g5 77. Be5 g4 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, you post the games... Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, the blunder was pointed by Vincent. Could you offer us more
>>details? >>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, you mean he told you an excuse?  Why don't you enlighten us?  If we only
>>>>knew what the excuse was, we could change the result to 1-0.
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>
>>>I understand. You are not able to post more details about the opening or the
>>>game itself. Again, you prove my point.
>>
>>
>>Details?  Are not the moves before you?  Can you not identify the opening?  Can
>>you not see the blunder?  DIEP made one move that lost a drawn game.  Simple.
>>
>
>Of course, man. The opening is a double fianchetto. Simple.
>
>There are another doubtful move by Diep in the transition to the middle game:
>19. Qf4?! Of course, you could not establish why. This is the hint for you.

What's your point?

Can you imagine what Vincent would have said if the PGN began:

[White "crafty"]
[Black "DIEP"]

Nobody can ever really beat Diep. See:
http://home.datawest.net/esn-recovery/artcls/socio.htm



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