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Subject: Re: RK 2004 (90m+30s) -- about no book learning.

Author: Louis Fagliano

Date: 11:17:06 05/25/04

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On May 24, 2004 at 16:09:14, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>Standing after serie 16 / each engine 112 games / total 448 games
>Tableau apres série 16 / chaque moteur 112 jeux / total 448 jeux
>Stand nach Serie 16 / jede Engine 112 Partien / total 448 Partien
>For details and games click http://www.utzingerkurt.com/rk2004.htm
>
>After serie 16
>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>
>  1 Shredder 8                     :  67.0/112  59.8   2491   2561   57  48
>  2 Junior 8                       :  62.0/112  55.4   2495   2533   61  48
>  3 Fritz 8                        :  60.5/112  54.0   2497   2525   63  41
>  4 Hiarcs 9                       :  58.5/112  52.2   2498   2514   64  46
>  5 The King 3.23 X                :  57.5/112  51.3   2499   2508   65  48
>  6 Ruffian 2.1.0                  :  53.5/112  47.8   2502   2487   45  64
>  7 List 513                       :  46.5/112  41.5   2508   2448   43  59
>  8 Aristarch 4.41                 :  42.5/112  37.9   2511   2425   56  56
>
>Generated with EloStat of Dr. Frank Schubert, start Elo 2500
>
>
>
>Results serie 16
>RK 2004  Ath 1.3/64  90m+30s (serie 16)
>Zurich, 2004.05.13 - 2004.05.23
>                       Score       SB   T L S F R H A J
>--------------------------------------------------------
> 1: The King 3.23 X   5.0 /  7   15.50  X 0 1 0 1 1 1 1
> 2: List 513          4.0 /  7   15.50  1 X 1 1 = 0 0 =
> 3: Shredder 8        4.0 /  7   12.00  0 0 X = 1 1 = 1
> 4: Fritz 8           3.5 /  7   12.25  1 0 = X 0 = = 1
> 5: Ruffian 2.1.0     3.5 /  7   11.00  0 = 0 1 X 1 = =
> 6: Hiarcs 9          3.0 /  7    9.50  0 1 0 = 0 X 1 =
> 7: Aristarch 4.41    2.5 /  7    9.50  0 1 = = = 0 X 0
> 8: Junior 8          2.5 /  7    7.75  0 = 0 0 = = 1 X
>--------------------------------------------------------
>28 games: +13 =9 -6
>(Generated with SCID 3.5 of Shane Hudson)
>
>
>
>RK 2004 Tournament
>8 engines, 140 rounds, 560 games, Athlon 1.3/64 MB hash
>All games played under ChessBase Fritz8-GUI
>Time control: 90m+30s, ponder=off, 3-/4-men EGTB
>Books: own books, no book learning, book options=use book, normal
>Participants:
>1) Aristarch 4.41 (aristarch.boo)
>2) Fritz 8.0.0.26 (fritz8.ctg)
>3) Hiarcs 9 (hiarcs9.ctg)
>4) Junior 8.0.0.2 (junior8.ctg)
>5) List 513 (general.ctg)
>6) Ruffian 2.1.0 UCI (Leiden book)
>7) Shredder 8 (shredder8.ctg)
>8) The King 3.23 X (fritz532.ctg) with new unpublished settings
>Tester: Kurt Utzinger / Rolf Bühler, Switzerland
>Details and Games at [http://www.utzingerkurt.com] under "Tournaments"

I have a question concerning the no book learning setting.  Has any engine
stumbled into the same losing opening line more than once?  I haven't downloaded
all the games for my database because I'm waiting for the entire tournament to
be completed before doing so, but you can find this out easily by sorting all
the games by ECO code and the seeing if there is an engine that lost two or more
games with the same first 15-20 opening moves repeated and that it's evaluation
after those same first 15-20 moves indicated that it was losing.




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