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Subject: Re: Stormx is this a Crafty Clone??

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 12:46:08 05/25/04

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On May 25, 2004 at 15:44:16, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 25, 2004 at 14:58:50, Sean Empey wrote:
>
>>On May 25, 2004 at 10:38:32, Sean Empey wrote:
>>
>>>On May 25, 2004 at 06:55:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 25, 2004 at 06:33:36, Sean Empey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 25, 2004 at 06:14:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 25, 2004 at 05:48:02, Sean Empey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, it is not a clone of crafty. I will tell you that it does use Dan Corbit's
>>>>>>>big book and crafty's book code, and the same egtb code that is used in crafty
>>>>>>>18.15. Other than that not much else is from crafty. Oh some of the Print
>>>>>>>functions I referenced are from crafty 16.x if memory serves correct. Storm is a
>>>>>>>SMP engine and uses a completely different algorithm for its search eval. It
>>>>>>>uses ABDADA.I have offered portions of code to Professor Hyatt but on the terms
>>>>>>>it not be published or used by him or others. My move generator functions are
>>>>>>>completely different and I can not go into detail regarding them as some of the
>>>>>>>code came from a professional programmer (at least the approach) on the
>>>>>>>condition I not release that code ever. Because a program has similar evals does
>>>>>>>not make it a clone. If I wanted to clone crafty I would not have been working
>>>>>>>on Storm for years; actually starting about one year before CCT1. As I have told
>>>>>>>Professor Hyatt. I am not cloning crafty. We have talked and he is fine. Any
>>>>>>>other questions someone may have; I'm willing to answer them to the best of my
>>>>>>>ability. I would appreciate ad hominems and other unnecessary comments not be
>>>>>>>made as I have stated I'm willing to back-up my claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you
>>>>>>>Sean Empey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So what is the reason that you do not compete with that storm in WBEC(I guess
>>>>>>that it also can use a single processor)?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't have time to compete in tourneys. Chess is a hobby for me; nothing more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Note that you only need to send a version of your program to Leo and if it is
>>>>stable it can compete.
>>>>
>>>>You do not have to release your program in order to do it and there are some
>>>>private engines that were never released in Leo's tournament like WARP 0.58 or
>>>>Xinix
>>>>
>>>>Storm0.6 competes in his tournament and
>>>>in the last 6th division it scored 1/2 point more than tscp1.81
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info. I was unaware that Storm 0.6 even was in this tournament.
>>>Ok .5 more. It was my first release and would not call it stable at that. That
>>>was many years ago. Surprised people still use it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>see http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/index.html and click on the 6th division.
>>>
>>>I will certainly take a look. Thanks.
>>
>>14th out of 53 engines is not to bad. I would figure Storm 0.6 to be closer to
>>the bottom. Thanks for the link. I had no knowledge of this tournament. I just
>>recently came back to this forum.
>
>This is only the 6th division that is the division of the weakest engines in
>Leo's tournament.
>
>There are 7 divisions when the best divisions is the premier division and the
>first division.
>
>It is the 7th edition.
>
>Storm competed in all the editions from the first edition
>
>You can see results of it in previous editions in the history pages
>
>It seems that it was relatively lucky in the last edition because in the 6
>edition it only got place 29 out of 48 when Tscp was 0.5 point above it.
>
>see http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/his6thedition.html
>
>Uri

Thanks for the explanation. I will take a look into it.

Sean



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