Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 16:18:42 05/26/04
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On May 26, 2004 at 17:55:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>On May 26, 2004 at 17:40:00, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2004 at 16:54:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 26, 2004 at 16:43:57, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2004 at 16:33:13, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 26, 2004 at 16:27:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 26, 2004 at 05:16:05, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an interesting point. I had never thought at it that way. So basically
>>>>>>>you say "faster implies more data and more randomness, and that probably levels
>>>>>>>out at some point". So an interesting experiment would be: try 1000 games at G1,
>>>>>>>100 games at G30 and 10 games at G120. The % of w/d/l should somehow be similar.
>>>>>>>Of course the numbers should be calculated in a more elaborated way, I just made
>>>>>>>them up, but that's the idea. Do you know how to do the calculations (my
>>>>>>>mathematical background is not enough)?
>>>>>>> Or we could do the other way, this is, run 1000 games at G1. Then start a
>>>>>>>match at G30 (with at least n games) until results are similiar in % to the
>>>>>>>first match. Then do the same with G120.
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>G/1
>>>>>>(Sample sub-match):
>>>>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>>>>[Site "MWMCKEE"]
>>>>>>[Date "2001.07.20"]
>>>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>>>[White "Zephyr-061"]
>>>>>>[Black "ZChess-120"]
>>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>>[TimeControl "60"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 Bf5 5. Bd3 e6 6. Nc3 Bg6 7. O-O Nbd7 8.
>>>>>>b3 Bb4 9. Bb2 Bxd3 10. Qxd3 O-O 11. a3 Bxc3 12. Bxc3 Qb6 13. cxd5 Nxd5 14.
>>>>>>Bd2 Qc7 15. Ra2 Qd6 16. e4 Ne7 17. Bc3 Rfd8 18. Qe3 a5 19. Re1 Ng6 20. Qg5
>>>>>>b6 21. a4 h6 22. Qe3 Ra7 23. g3 Rb7 24. Qc1 Rc7 25. Ree2 Nf6 26. Nd2 Qd7
>>>>>>27. Nc4 Rb7 28. Qc2 Ne7 29. Qd2 Ng6 30. Qe3 Ng4 31. Qf3 Nf6 32. Qg2 Qe7 33.
>>>>>>Qf1 Ne8 34. Qc1 Qc7 35. Kh1 Qb8 36. Nb2 Rbd7 37. Kg1 Qb7 38. Qe3 Nf6 39.
>>>>>>Nc4 c5
>>>>>>{Black wins on time} 0-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>>>>[Site "MWMCKEE"]
>>>>>>[Date "2001.07.20"]
>>>>>>[Round "2"]
>>>>>>[White "ZChess-120"]
>>>>>>[Black "Zephyr-061"]
>>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>>[TimeControl "60"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4 Bg6 6. Nge2 Bb4 7. h4 Be4 8.
>>>>>>Rh3 f5 9. Nf4 Kf7 10. g5 Bxc3+ 11. Rxc3 c5 12. Qh5+ g6 13. Nxg6 Kg7 14.
>>>>>>Nxh8 Kxh8 15. g6 Qd7 16. gxh7 Qxh7 17. Qxh7+ Kxh7 18. f3 Bxf3 19. Rxf3 Nc6
>>>>>>20. dxc5 Nxe5 21. Rb3 Nf6 22. Bf4 Ned7 23. Rxb7
>>>>>>{Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Output from 24652 (finished) games:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
>>>>>> 1 Delfi 1.0 : 2948 0 0 12 100.0 % 2348 0.0 %
>>>>>> 2 Comet B.35 : 2854 0 345 36 97.2 % 2254 5.6 %
>>>>>> 3 TCBishop : 2812 0 0 34 100.0 % 2212 0.0 %
>>>>>> 4 Delfi 1.01 : 2799 70 407 40 95.0 % 2287 0.0 %
>>>>>> 5 Phalanx : 2782 0 0 38 100.0 % 2182 0.0 %
>>>>>> 6 WBQueen : 2782 0 0 38 100.0 % 2182 0.0 %
>>>>>> 7 Yace 0.99.01 : 2775 0 0 32 100.0 % 2175 0.0 %
>>>>>> 8 Tao44 : 2770 0 0 34 100.0 % 2170 0.0 %
>>>>>> 9 LGoliath : 2757 66 270 44 95.5 % 2228 9.1 %
>>>>>> 10 Dragon : 2726 72 405 38 94.7 % 2224 0.0 %
>>>>>> 11 Comet B.37 : 2724 72 294 40 92.5 % 2287 5.0 %
>>>>>> 12 Sjeng73 : 2672 26 144 244 89.8 % 2295 2.5 %
>>>>>> 13 SSEchess : 2670 75 403 36 94.4 % 2177 0.0 %
>>>>>> 14 MAD : 2664 71 304 42 90.5 % 2273 0.0 %
>>>>>> 15 Arasanx-54 : 2649 17 97 574 88.5 % 2294 1.4 %
>>>>>> 16 AnMon : 2649 27 90 258 83.3 % 2369 8.5 %
>>>>>> 17 Gully2 : 2629 68 306 44 90.9 % 2229 0.0 %
>>>>>> 18 WBQueen-212 : 2625 86 296 32 87.5 % 2287 0.0 %
>>>>>> 19 Crafty-18.2 : 2625 71 234 42 90.5 % 2234 9.5 %
>>>>>> 20 Quark v1.46alpha : 2624 27 131 246 87.8 % 2281 1.6 %
>>>>>> 21 Morphy : 2623 66 249 48 89.6 % 2249 4.2 %
>>>>>> 22 Quark-146a : 2606 154 289 16 75.0 % 2415 0.0 %
>>>>>> 23 Faile : 2598 65 210 50 88.0 % 2252 8.0 %
>>>>>> 24 Comet B.36 : 2594 19 85 494 84.6 % 2298 0.8 %
>>>>>> 25 Ghost : 2577 66 215 50 86.0 % 2262 4.0 %
>>>>>> 26 Gaviota : 2573 72 243 42 88.1 % 2226 4.8 %
>>>>>> 27 WildCat : 2552 75 241 40 87.5 % 2214 5.0 %
>>>>>> 28 Knightx : 2547 71 250 44 86.4 % 2227 0.0 %
>>>>>> 29 Sjeng 10 CCT : 2546 28 101 248 82.3 % 2280 1.6 %
>>>>>> 30 Yace 0.99.50 : 2545 23 80 378 81.7 % 2285 2.6 %
>>>>>> 31 TSCP-152 : 2542 30 81 230 80.4 % 2296 11.3 %
>>>>>> 32 Crux 05.0g : 2541 111 269 22 86.4 % 2220 9.1 %
>>>>>> 33 lambChop : 2540 80 198 38 84.2 % 2249 10.5 %
>>>>>> 34 Bestia : 2538 74 248 42 85.7 % 2227 0.0 %
>>>>>> 35 ExChess4 : 2537 68 213 48 85.4 % 2230 4.2 %
>>>>>> 36 Bringer-18 : 2532 18 59 612 79.2 % 2299 2.3 %
>>>>>> 37 TSCP-172 : 2529 30 92 230 79.6 % 2293 2.6 %
>>>>>> 38 Fortress : 2527 77 247 40 85.0 % 2226 0.0 %
>>>>>> 39 LG2000V3 : 2519 20 56 562 77.0 % 2308 2.5 %
>>>>>> 40 OliThink : 2515 77 200 40 85.0 % 2214 10.0 %
>>>>>> 41 GNU Chess v5.02 : 2513 19 55 610 77.5 % 2298 2.3 %
>>>>>> 42 Dragon-311 : 2511 19 59 572 77.4 % 2296 0.3 %
>>>>>> 43 Crafty : 2510 192 252 12 75.0 % 2319 16.7 %
>>>>>> 44 Bestia-08 : 2508 85 202 36 80.6 % 2261 5.6 %
>>>>>> 45 Averno-30 : 2508 24 70 378 77.2 % 2295 1.1 %
>>>>>> 46 GNUChess4 : 2507 76 208 42 83.3 % 2227 4.8 %
>>>>>> 47 LordKingV2_9 : 2505 77 178 42 81.0 % 2254 9.5 %
>>>>>> 48 Beowulf : 2504 80 176 40 80.0 % 2263 10.0 %
>>>>>> 49 Phalanx-xxii : 2492 32 82 230 76.5 % 2287 3.5 %
>>>>>> 50 Bringer : 2491 78 161 44 77.3 % 2279 9.1 %
>>>>>> 51 Nejmet : 2482 80 210 40 80.0 % 2242 0.0 %
>>>>>> 52 TSCP : 2468 62 214 54 88.9 % 2107 7.4 %
>>>>>> 53 Ufim143 : 2467 33 74 230 72.6 % 2298 2.6 %
>>>>>> 54 Morphy-322 : 2459 30 61 296 70.6 % 2307 3.4 %
>>>>>> 55 Gully213p16 : 2459 21 45 586 71.0 % 2303 3.4 %
>>>>>> 56 ArasanX : 2451 77 165 46 76.1 % 2250 4.3 %
>>>>>> 57 LDBlanche : 2449 82 167 44 72.7 % 2279 0.0 %
>>>>>> 58 ExChess-402 : 2441 22 44 568 69.5 % 2297 2.5 %
>>>>>> 59 WBQueen-213 : 2440 102 142 36 63.9 % 2341 5.6 %
>>>>>> 60 Holmes : 2440 83 180 40 77.5 % 2225 5.0 %
>>>>>> 61 Yace-020 : 2436 34 63 246 68.7 % 2300 4.1 %
>>>>>> 62 Averno-32 : 2429 22 41 570 67.4 % 2303 3.5 %
>>>>>> 63 Bestia-07 : 2427 23 42 542 67.0 % 2304 3.3 %
>>>>>> 64 Averno : 2420 93 153 36 72.2 % 2254 11.1 %
>>>>>> 65 Pepito v1.21 : 2414 34 65 248 68.5 % 2279 1.6 %
>>>>>> 66 ZChess : 2412 84 209 38 78.9 % 2182 0.0 %
>>>>>> 67 Pepito-121 : 2411 154 173 22 54.5 % 2380 0.0 %
>>>>>> 68 King of Kings 1.95 : 2410 44 72 158 65.8 % 2296 5.1 %
>>>>>> 69 ZChess-222 : 2409 21 37 604 67.9 % 2279 9.9 %
>>>>>> 70 chezzz : 2406 83 134 46 69.6 % 2263 8.7 %
>>>>>> 71 WBQueen-214 : 2406 42 73 166 66.9 % 2284 3.6 %
>>>>>> 72 DrChess : 2404 84 148 44 70.5 % 2253 4.5 %
>>>>>> 73 GLC : 2403 126 234 22 72.7 % 2233 0.0 %
>>>>>> 74 WildCat-257 : 2402 37 57 232 63.8 % 2303 5.2 %
>>>>>> 75 LDBlanche-20c : 2400 23 37 580 63.3 % 2305 1.7 %
>>>>>> 76 DrChess-20 : 2394 23 37 568 63.4 % 2299 2.8 %
>>>>>> 77 ColChessp : 2393 88 112 42 69.0 % 2254 23.8 %
>>>>>> 78 chezzz-088 : 2391 23 36 566 63.4 % 2296 6.0 %
>>>>>> 79 AnMon-509 : 2390 25 38 524 61.3 % 2310 1.1 %
>>>>>> 80 ExChess-311 : 2390 24 36 568 62.9 % 2298 3.9 %
>>>>>> 81 Ghost-13 : 2388 23 37 590 62.0 % 2303 0.7 %
>>>>>> 82 AnMon-510 : 2387 25 38 536 61.6 % 2305 0.7 %
>>>>>> 83 FranWB : 2385 89 135 44 65.9 % 2271 4.5 %
>>>>>> 84 Ant : 2381 82 167 44 72.7 % 2211 0.0 %
>>>>>> 85 Mint v2.3 : 2374 24 33 612 60.1 % 2302 4.6 %
>>>>>> 86 Comet : 2372 206 298 12 66.7 % 2251 0.0 %
>>>>>> 87 OliThink-305c : 2368 38 57 236 61.0 % 2290 0.0 %
>>>>>> 88 TCB : 2367 206 298 12 66.7 % 2247 0.0 %
>>>>>> 89 Freyr : 2362 87 139 46 65.2 % 2253 0.0 %
>>>>>> 90 mustang : 2360 98 151 34 70.6 % 2208 11.8 %
>>>>>> 91 ZChess-120 : 2359 23 32 624 60.9 % 2282 6.4 %
>>>>>> 92 WinCraft : 2357 42 57 204 59.8 % 2288 3.9 %
>>>>>> 93 Gaviota-022 : 2355 26 33 572 57.5 % 2303 3.1 %
>>>>>> 94 Freyr-1067 : 2354 26 34 560 57.9 % 2299 1.4 %
>>>>>> 95 Beowulf-16b : 2354 21 27 866 57.3 % 2303 2.3 %
>>>>>> 96 Noonian-30 : 2351 39 50 240 58.3 % 2293 5.0 %
>>>>>> 97 LordKing-29 : 2347 26 31 576 55.9 % 2306 3.5 %
>>>>>> 98 DChess-102 : 2343 26 32 562 56.0 % 2300 3.2 %
>>>>>> 99 Esc : 2342 89 135 44 65.9 % 2228 4.5 %
>>>>>>100 LordKing-29D : 2341 27 30 576 55.2 % 2305 4.9 %
>>>>>>101 LarsenVB : 2335 92 115 46 60.9 % 2258 8.7 %
>>>>>>102 Raffaela-005 : 2334 41 50 236 56.8 % 2287 3.4 %
>>>>>>103 Green Light Chess v2.13 : 2334 28 32 518 54.8 % 2300 3.1 %
>>>>>>104 Storm : 2332 98 151 34 70.6 % 2180 11.8 %
>>>>>>105 LambChop-710 : 2331 101 135 40 60.0 % 2261 0.0 %
>>>>>>106 Esc-028 : 2326 27 31 556 54.1 % 2297 2.5 %
>>>>>>107 Amyan-111 : 2324 27 28 596 52.3 % 2308 6.7 %
>>>>>>108 Gerbil-01 : 2323 28 30 548 53.3 % 2300 5.1 %
>>>>>>109 Noonian : 2322 94 111 44 61.4 % 2242 13.6 %
>>>>>>110 King of Kings 1.96 : 2320 35 34 388 50.8 % 2315 4.6 %
>>>>>>111 Aldebaran 0.7.0 : 2320 23 21 878 50.1 % 2319 9.1 %
>>>>>>112 NewRival : 2318 107 154 32 65.6 % 2206 6.2 %
>>>>>>113 The Crazy Bishop, v46.01 : 2315 54 64 136 57.4 % 2264 5.9 %
>>>>>>114 Nejmet-260 : 2313 43 49 232 53.9 % 2286 0.9 %
>>>>>>115 Storm-006 : 2311 44 47 236 52.5 % 2294 1.7 %
>>>>>>116 DChess : 2311 93 119 48 58.3 % 2253 0.0 %
>>>>>>117 Faile-14 : 2306 29 28 560 51.6 % 2295 6.8 %
>>>>>>118 LordKingV2_9D : 2299 113 102 36 55.6 % 2260 22.2 %
>>>>>>119 Knightx-170 : 2298 139 174 24 58.3 % 2239 0.0 %
>>>>>>120 Amyan-1423 : 2297 31 31 490 48.4 % 2308 4.5 %
>>>>>>121 Sjeng10cct : 2295 166 133 24 37.5 % 2384 8.3 %
>>>>>>122 Blikskottel 0.4 : 2295 185 131 16 56.2 % 2251 37.5 %
>>>>>>123 SSEchess-2045 : 2292 43 45 240 49.6 % 2295 5.8 %
>>>>>>124 Gerbil : 2283 100 109 46 54.3 % 2253 4.3 %
>>>>>>125 EnginMax : 2281 102 126 42 57.1 % 2231 0.0 %
>>>>>>126 Ant-606 : 2280 30 27 582 46.9 % 2301 1.0 %
>>>>>>127 31337-30 : 2273 21 19 1138 46.0 % 2301 7.9 %
>>>>>>128 TCBishop-0045 : 2273 43 45 230 48.7 % 2282 8.7 %
>>>>>>129 Bace : 2268 39 24 520 33.7 % 2386 8.1 %
>>>>>>130 Holmes-040 : 2258 37 31 408 44.6 % 2295 2.0 %
>>>>>>131 Bace-45 : 2256 41 36 312 44.6 % 2294 7.1 %
>>>>>>132 Cilian : 2254 95 95 40 50.0 % 2254 30.0 %
>>>>>>133 Chessterfield : 2249 103 103 42 50.0 % 2249 14.3 %
>>>>>>134 LarsenVB-407 : 2244 32 25 582 40.9 % 2308 6.2 %
>>>>>>135 Amy : 2242 30 15 1102 31.2 % 2379 6.2 %
>>>>>>136 Amyan : 2241 47 23 480 28.7 % 2399 6.7 %
>>>>>>137 Mustang-172 : 2240 48 39 242 41.7 % 2298 7.4 %
>>>>>>138 King of Kings Engine 1.94: 2240 154 173 22 54.5 % 2208 0.0 %
>>>>>>139 Comet-B36 : 2234 147 100 38 36.8 % 2328 0.0 %
>>>>>>140 Gromit3 : 2230 31 24 604 40.2 % 2299 8.3 %
>>>>>>141 Betsy : 2226 115 115 40 50.0 % 2226 0.0 %
>>>>>>142 SSEchess-202 : 2226 49 39 232 40.5 % 2293 10.3 %
>>>>>>143 EnginMax-260 : 2222 38 25 544 38.4 % 2303 0.4 %
>>>>>>144 Ozwald : 2217 131 131 32 50.0 % 2217 0.0 %
>>>>>>145 Chessterfield-15a : 2215 35 24 578 37.5 % 2304 6.6 %
>>>>>>146 Cilian-413 : 2212 30 24 558 37.3 % 2303 19.4 %
>>>>>>147 MAD-005 : 2209 36 23 570 36.5 % 2305 5.6 %
>>>>>>148 Blikskottel 0.5 : 2199 133 98 40 37.5 % 2287 5.0 %
>>>>>>149 Gromit2 : 2196 38 22 608 35.4 % 2300 1.6 %
>>>>>>150 FranWB-090 : 2191 38 23 574 34.3 % 2303 5.9 %
>>>>>>151 FRANWB-081 : 2189 39 22 566 33.4 % 2309 6.0 %
>>>>>>152 LarsenVB-313 : 2182 38 22 570 32.6 % 2308 8.4 %
>>>>>>153 Ant-416 : 2165 43 22 566 30.9 % 2304 3.2 %
>>>>>>154 MSCP : 2157 111 94 44 38.6 % 2238 13.6 %
>>>>>>155 Fortress-162 : 2153 45 21 568 29.6 % 2303 3.5 %
>>>>>>156 31337 : 2152 53 15 834 18.7 % 2407 4.8 %
>>>>>>157 NeroWB : 2137 113 111 40 47.5 % 2155 5.0 %
>>>>>>158 NewRival-1817 : 2132 190 121 24 29.2 % 2286 8.3 %
>>>>>>159 Pierre : 2131 128 82 50 34.0 % 2246 4.0 %
>>>>>>160 Raffaela : 2128 104 107 38 42.1 % 2184 21.1 %
>>>>>>161 StAndersen : 2126 128 82 50 34.0 % 2241 4.0 %
>>>>>>162 Grizzly : 2125 134 93 42 35.7 % 2227 4.8 %
>>>>>>163 TCBishop-4601 : 2123 106 47 118 27.1 % 2294 0.0 %
>>>>>>164 Golem01 : 2119 49 20 596 25.8 % 2302 3.4 %
>>>>>>165 Ozwald-043 : 2106 80 31 250 24.4 % 2303 0.8 %
>>>>>>166 NeroWB-5 : 2096 84 31 244 23.4 % 2303 0.8 %
>>>>>>167 Knightx-154 : 2085 61 19 584 21.4 % 2311 0.3 %
>>>>>>168 AWECON-10 : 2084 289 154 16 25.0 % 2274 0.0 %
>>>>>>169 Amy-07 : 2079 49 16 800 20.9 % 2310 4.8 %
>>>>>>170 NewRival-1828 : 2054 223 112 24 20.8 % 2286 8.3 %
>>>>>>171 InmiChess3 : 2033 70 18 610 17.5 % 2302 0.3 %
>>>>>>172 Chad's Chess V015 : 2031 79 21 428 18.0 % 2294 1.4 %
>>>>>>173 Zephyr : 2029 177 90 36 25.0 % 2220 5.6 %
>>>>>>174 Zephyr-061 : 2027 77 22 406 18.7 % 2282 2.0 %
>>>>>>175 Tamerlane-01 : 1998 115 28 238 15.5 % 2292 0.8 %
>>>>>>176 ChadChess-015 : 1994 154 37 140 13.6 % 2315 1.4 %
>>>>>>177 tamerlane : 1987 207 88 36 22.2 % 2205 0.0 %
>>>>>>178 Noonian-29 : 1975 120 28 242 14.0 % 2290 1.7 %
>>>>>>179 Betsy-526 : 1973 96 18 516 13.2 % 2300 0.0 %
>>>>>>180 Awecon : 1971 294 90 30 13.3 % 2296 0.0 %
>>>>>>181 VCTAO44 : 1969 123 28 232 14.7 % 2275 0.0 %
>>>>>>182 GNUChess-414 : 1966 94 17 562 12.5 % 2305 0.7 %
>>>>>>183 Grizzly-125 : 1964 92 18 552 12.3 % 2305 2.2 %
>>>>>>184 Rikus : 1957 250 71 44 13.6 % 2278 0.0 %
>>>>>>185 Comet-B22 : 1939 392 139 16 12.5 % 2277 0.0 %
>>>>>>186 Skaki : 1890 297 170 12 8.3 % 2307 16.7 %
>>>>>>187 MSCP-011 : 1857 191 26 244 7.4 % 2297 0.0 %
>>>>>>188 aldebaran : 1836 0 0 200 0.0 % 2436 0.0 %
>>>>>>189 SCP : 1821 0 0 16 0.0 % 2421 0.0 %
>>>>>>190 GLC-213 : 1799 405 72 38 5.3 % 2301 0.0 %
>>>>>>191 Aldebaran-070 : 1720 0 0 78 0.0 % 2320 0.0 %
>>>>>>192 Faile-06 : 1720 0 0 266 0.0 % 2320 0.0 %
>>>>>>193 Tikov : 1704 0 0 14 0.0 % 2304 0.0 %
>>>>>>194 Chess-Rikus-12 : 1677 0 0 24 0.0 % 2277 0.0 %
>>>>>>195 KACE : 1662 0 0 16 0.0 % 2262 0.0 %
>>>>>>196 SOS : 1632 0 0 12 0.0 % 2232 0.0 %
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look above and notice the positions of engines like SOS and GLC.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is only because you include engines with serious bugs in your list.
>>>>>
>>>>>programmers who test their engines do not need to use buggy engines that lose on
>>>>>time or the opposite (do not use enough time in 1 minute per game).
>>>>
>>>>In what way have the engines with serious bugs pushed SOS, GLC, COMET-B22 and
>>>>Amy-07 so far down in the list? If anything, the presence of buggy engines
>>>>should elevate them.
>>>
>>>old GLC and SOS are part of the engines with serious bugs.
>>>Old Amy had also serious bug in bullet time control.
>>
>>In the case of Amy, it just played poorly because of the algorithm for time
>>allocation. Not sure about the others. GLC did not crash, it just played
>>badly.
>>
>>>The bugs are relevant only for bullet games and not for long time control but
>>>there are enough engines without bugs at 1 minute per game.
>>
>>Does better or worse at a given time control is not a bug, it is how the engine
>>plays. If the engine hangs or crashes, that is another issue. At any rate, at
>>very high rates of speed many engines play very erratically. That was my main
>>point. The high speed list containst all kinds of things we know are absurd.
>>The slow speed list is pretty much what we would expect.
>>
>>I expect that at Game in one second, the ouput will be almost a pure random
>>number generator and at game in 5 minutes on a fast machine, most of the random
>>behavior will have tapered away. The speed of the machine will be as large a
>>determining factor as the time control (for obvious reasons)
>
>people do not expect programs to perform normally in game in 1 second but they
>expect programs to perform normally in game in 1 minute.
>
>bullet is 1 minute per game and not 1 second per game.
>
>Uri
1 minute per game on a single processor machine is nonsensical Nonsense.
Even some commercial engines perform _not_ normally at that time control.
Hiarcs 9 is a good example. Overstepping the time limit happens way too often.
Michael
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