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Subject: Re: compare two lines, one 86 years old

Author: John Merlino

Date: 16:36:03 05/26/04

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On May 26, 2004 at 19:16:31, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>Deep Fritz, on Opteron 64 2200 mhz, in 60 minutes, cannot find better line
>played by two strong players 86 years ago. Chess is interesting game. Chess
>programs are amazing.
>
>Deep Fritz
>17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2 Qg6 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.b3 Bf3 23.Qe1
>c5
>
>24.Ba3 c4+ 25.bxc4 bxc4+ 26.Kxc4 Qxc2
>  =  (0.16)   Depth: 20/58   01:07:30  6018662kN
>
>
>Black,Roy - Marshall,Frank J [C88]
>New York New York, 1918
>
>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.Bd5 Nxd5
>9.exd5 Nb4 10.Nc3 Bb7 11.Nxe5 d6 12.Ng4 f5 13.Ne3 f4 14.a3 fxe3 15.dxe3 Bh4
>16.Rf1 Bxf2+
>
>17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2 Qg6 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.b3 Bf3 23.Qe1
>c5
>
>24.Bb2 Rc8 25.e4 cxb4 26.Qg3 Rxc3+ 27.Bxc3 Qe2+ 0-1
>
> [D] r2q1rk1/1bp3pp/p2p4/1p1P4/1n6/P1N1P3/1PP2bPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 17
>
>score jumps with 24.Bb2
>
>kburcham

It would help if Deep Fritz DID see farther, because 22.b3 is the losing move.
CM_SKR, on the other hand, sees in five seconds that 22.Nxd5 Qxd5+ 23.Ke2 is
better for White, and leads to a draw:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-0.10	994		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qh4+ 19.Kg1
					Nxc2
0:00	1/4	-0.12	3053		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qh4+ 19.Kg1
					Nxc2 20.g3
0:00	1/5	0.81	13790		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Qg5 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.Nxd5
					Qxd5+ 23.Ke2
0:00	1/6	0.13	42227		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Kg1
					Rf8 20.Ne4 Qh4 21.axb4 Qxe4
0:00	1/7	0.26	127831		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Bc8 20.Kd2 Qf2+ 21.Qe2 Qxe2+ 22.Kxe2
					Nxc2 23.Rb1
0:01	1/8	1.06	334779		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Kg1
					Rf8 20.h3 Qf2+ 21.Kh2 Nxc2 22.Ne4
					Nxa1 23.Nxf2 Rxf2
0:02	1/9	1.22	712749		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Kg1
					Rf8 20.h3 Qf2+ 21.Kh2 Nxc2 22.Ne4
					Nxa1 23.Nxf2 Rxf2 24.e4 a5
0:05	1/10	0.00	1873375		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Qg5 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.Nxd5
					Qxd5+ 23.Ke2 Qg2+ 24.Kd3 Qd5+
0:11	1/11	0.00	3920292		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Qg5 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.Nxd5
					Qxd5+ 23.Ke2 Qg2+ 24.Kd3 Qd5+
0:25	1/12	0.00	8580620		17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Qg5 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.Nxd5
					Qxd5+ 23.Ke2 Qg2+ 24.Kd3 Qd5+
0:59	1/13	0.00	20526203	17.Rxf2 Rxf2 18.Kxf2 Qf6+ 19.Ke2
					Qg5 20.axb4 Qxg2+ 21.Kd3 Bxd5 22.Nxd5
					Qxd5+ 23.Ke2 Qg2+ 24.Kd3 Qd5+

jm




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